APOSTLE JOHN IS STILL LIVING ON EARTH ? | IS HE STILL ALIVE DISCIPLE OF JESUS CHRIST | #jesus #2023
Summary
TLDRThe script delves into the enigmatic statement from John 21:22, where Jesus speaks about John's life in a way that has led to speculation about whether John the Apostle might still be alive today. The video explores various interpretations, including the hyperbolic view that Jesus used language for emphasis rather than a literal prediction, the preterist perspective that the statement referred to the destruction of Jerusalem, and the literal view, notably held by the Mormon Church, which suggests John has been living for two millennia. The script also touches on the historical context and the influence of John's teachings, while acknowledging the enduring curiosity and debates this biblical passage has sparked.
Takeaways
- 😮 The script discusses a mysterious statement made by Jesus in John 21 about the life of John the Apostle, which has intrigued believers for centuries.
- 🤔 It raises the question of whether John is still alive today, a possibility that some religious organizations have considered as part of their teachings.
- 📚 John the Apostle, born around 6 CE, was a close disciple of Jesus and an influential early church leader who wrote the Gospel of John.
- 📖 According to church tradition, John died from old age between 98 and 100 CE, contradicting the idea that he might still be alive.
- 📝 The conversation in John 21:19-23 between Jesus and Peter is the basis for speculations about John's life span.
- 🔍 There are three main interpretations of Jesus's words in John 21:22: hyperbolic, preterist, and literal perspectives.
- 🔗 The hyperbolic view suggests Jesus used exaggerated language to make a point about Peter's attitude and is widely accepted among Christians.
- 🕍 The preterist perspective links Jesus's statement to the destruction of Jerusalem, a less popular interpretation based on an obscure belief.
- 🌟 The literal perspective, notably held by the Mormon Church, interprets Jesus's words as a factual claim that John has been alive for two thousand years.
- 📜 The Doctrine and Covenants, a collection of revelations in Mormonism, includes a section that supports the belief in John's continued existence.
- 🧐 Despite the historical and theological debate, no major Christian denomination today claims that the Apostle John is still living.
Q & A
What is the mysterious statement made by Jesus in John 21 that has intrigued people for centuries?
-The mysterious statement is found in John 21:22-23, where Jesus tells Peter, 'If I want him to stay until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me.' This statement has led to speculation about whether John the Apostle is still alive today.
What did your middle school teacher suggest when asked about John's possible current existence?
-Your middle school teacher, known to be a prankster, suggested that it was possible for John to still be alive today, sparking a week-long debate among the students.
What is the historical context of John the Apostle's life and death?
-John the Apostle was born around 6 CE, became one of Jesus's closest disciples, and an influential early church leader. He wrote the Gospel of John and mentored Polycarp. According to church tradition, John died from old age between 98 and 100 CE.
What are the different interpretations of John 21:22 and why are they significant?
-There are three main interpretations: the hyperbolic perspective, suggesting Jesus used illustrative language; the preterism perspective, which links the statement to the destruction of Jerusalem; and the literal perspective, which takes Jesus's words at face value and suggests John is still alive. These interpretations reflect different theological beliefs and understandings of scripture.
How does the hyperbolic perspective interpret Jesus's words in John 21:22?
-The hyperbolic perspective argues that Jesus used exaggerated language to make a point about Peter's attitude rather than predicting John's literal future. This view is commonly held by Christians who believe John died around 98 CE.
What is the preterism perspective and how does it relate to John 21:22?
-The preterism perspective suggests that Jesus's words were a prediction of future events, specifically the destruction of Jerusalem, rather than his Second Coming. This view is less popular and is associated with an eschatological view that all New Testament prophecies were fulfilled before the end of the first century.
Which religious group is most prominent in promoting the literal interpretation of John 21:22?
-The Mormon Church, or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is the most prominent group that promotes the literal interpretation of John 21:22, believing that John has been walking the Earth for the last two thousand years.
What is the source of the Mormon Church's belief that John the Apostle is still alive?
-The belief comes from the Doctrine and Covenants, a collection of revelations received by Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon Church. Section 7 of the Doctrine and Covenants details a revelation where Jesus allegedly granted John the power to live until Jesus's return.
How does the belief that John never died fit within the broader context of Christianity?
-While the belief that John never died has been a topic of speculation since the founding of Christianity, it has not evolved beyond friendly speculation in mainstream denominations. Today, no major Christian denominations claim that the Apostle John still lives.
What is the comparison made between John 21:22 and Revelation 10:11 in the script?
-The script does not provide specific details about the comparison between John 21:22 and Revelation 10:11. However, it suggests that examining these passages closely could offer further insights into the intriguing nature of Jesus's statement about John's potential lifespan.
Outlines
🤔 The Enigma of John's Lifespan in John 21
This paragraph delves into the intriguing statement made by Jesus in John 21:22, which has captivated the imagination of believers for centuries. It discusses the possibility of John the Apostle still being alive, a notion that has been entertained by some religious groups and sparked debates among scholars. The paragraph outlines the historical context of John's life, his contributions as a disciple and leader in the early church, and the traditional belief that he died of old age around 98-100 CE. It also explains the conversation between Jesus and Peter that led to the speculation about John's lifespan, presenting three main interpretations of Jesus's words: the hyperbolic perspective, which suggests Jesus used exaggerated language to make a point about Peter's attitude; the preterism perspective, which links Jesus's words to the destruction of Jerusalem rather than his second coming; and the literal perspective, which takes Jesus's words at face value and suggests John has been living on Earth for the past two millennia. The paragraph also mentions the Mormon Church's belief in John's continued existence as part of their doctrine.
📚 Comparative Analysis of John 21:22 and Revelation 10:11
The second paragraph continues the exploration of John's potential immortality by comparing John 21:22 with Revelation 10:11. It emphasizes the enigmatic nature of Jesus's statement in John 21:22, which some interpret as a reference to John's extended lifespan, possibly until the return of Jesus. The paragraph also touches upon the broader implications of this interpretation within Christianity, noting that while the idea of John's continued existence has persisted since the early days of the faith, no major denominations currently claim that the Apostle John is still alive. It highlights the enduring fascination with the possibility, suggesting that individuals may still speculate about John's existence, much like the middle school Bible teacher mentioned, who neither confirms nor denies John's current presence on Earth.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡John 21
💡Apostle John
💡Martyr's death
💡Canonical teaching
💡Hyperbolic perspective
💡Preterism
💡Literal perspective
💡Doctrine and Covenants
💡Eschatology
💡Urim and Thummim
Highlights
John 21:22 has been a source of intrigue and debate for centuries regarding the lifespan of John the Apostle.
The statement 'If I want him to remain alive until I return' has been interpreted in various ways by different religious groups.
Some believe John could still be alive today, a notion that has been part of canonical teachings in some religious organizations.
John the Apostle was a close disciple of Jesus and an influential early church leader, authoring the Gospel of John.
Church tradition suggests John died of old age between 98 and 100 CE.
The conversation in John 21:19-23 involves Jesus, Peter, and John, discussing the nature of Peter's death and John's future.
Three main interpretations of John 21:22 are presented: hyperbolic, preterism, and literal perspectives.
The hyperbolic perspective suggests Jesus used exaggerated language to emphasize Peter's attitude rather than predicting John's lifespan.
Preterism interprets Jesus's words as a prediction of the destruction of Jerusalem, not the end of time.
The literal perspective, held by some like the Mormon Church, believes John has been alive for two thousand years awaiting Jesus's return.
Doctrine and Covenants, a Mormon scripture, includes a revelation about John's desire to overcome death and live until Jesus's return.
Despite rumors and debates, no major Christian denominations currently claim that John the Apostle is still alive.
The belief in John's continued existence has persisted as a topic of fascination and speculation among some believers.
A comparative analysis of John 21:22 and Revelation 10:11 is suggested to further explore the enigmatic statement about John's lifespan.
The interpretation of Jesus's words in John 21:22 remains a subject of theological debate and personal belief.
Transcripts
in John 21 there is a mysterious thing
where Jesus makes an intriguing
statement about the length of John's
life the video has captured the
imaginations of Believers for over a
millennium and has caused people to
wonder
is Jon still alive today according to
John 21 22 if I want him John to remain
alive until I return what is that to you
you must follow me this statement
sparked my classes Middle School
imagination does this mean John is still
alive today surprised face we asked with
eyes full of wonder as if he had
anticipated the question without missing
a beat our teacher replied it's possible
this statement left us mystified and for
about a week we debated the possibility
however my friend group eventually
determined that our teacher a known
prankster was probably messing with us
although the notion that Jon could still
be alive today seems ridiculous to most
a surprisingly large number of people
entertain the possibility
some religious organizations have even
gone so far as to make it an official
part of canonical teaching the
historical death of John John the
Apostle was born sometime around 6 CE he
became one of Jesus's closest disciples
and a very influential early church
leader later in life he wrote the Gospel
of John mentored polycarp who became the
bishop of Smyrna and wrote everyone's
favorite piece of apocalyptic literature
Revelation according to church tradition
John died from old age sometime between
98 and 100 CE John 21 22 is John still
alive today this whole business of
people thinking John may still be
walking the Earth today can all be
traced back to Jesus's conversation with
Peter in John 21 verses 19 to 23
contextual
Jesus has just returned from the dead
sorry about the spoilers and is wrapping
up a nice but tense breakfast with his
disciples as they begin getting ready to
move on Jesus casually informs Peter
that he will die a martyr's death Peter
is understandably taken aback by this
turns to John and asks for information
about his death Jesus understanding the
disgruntled disciple had missed the
point answered with a question according
to John 21 colon
22-23 if I desire that he stay until I
come what is that to you you follow me
this saying therefore Went Out Among the
brothers that this disciple wouldn't die
yet Jesus didn't say to him that he
wouldn't die but if I desire that he
stay until I come what is that to you
the three interpretations of John 21 22
the language in John 21 22 is relatively
flexible in other words it could be a
literal prediction of the future or an
illustration designed to make a point
due to this ambiguity there are several
interpretations of Christ words one the
hyperbolic perspective the first view
argues that John 21 is more hyperbolic
than literal this interpretation argues
that Jesus used exaggerated slash
illustrative language to make a point
about Peter's attitude this
interpretation is primarily held by
people who believe that John died
sometime around 98 CE although Jesus
doesn't know when the world will end
mark 13 32 he did know how his disciples
would die consequently proponents of
this view argue that John's historical
death prevents a literal interpretation
of Jesus's words for making any sense
some also argue that Jesus would have
used more explicit language if he had
intended to make a claim about future
events for example the phrase why does
it matter to you that he will stay until
I come is less ambiguous than if I
desire that he stay until I come what is
that to you from what I can tell most
Christians hold the hyperbolic View and
it seems to be the default position of
most if not all denominations two the
preterism perspective others suggest
that John 21 22 was a prediction of
future events but that his statement if
I desire that he stay until I come was
referencing the destruction of Jerusalem
instead of Christ's return at the end of
time this view is based on a relatively
obscure belief often associated with the
eschatological view preterism in Luke 21
verses 20 to 28 Jesus predicts the
Temple's destruction and then says at
that time they will see the son of man
coming in a cloud with power and great
Glory
typically verse 20 to 24 are thought to
be about the destruction of Jerusalem
while 25 to 28 are about Jesus's return
at the end of time however some
preterists believe all new testament
prophesies found fulfillment before the
end of the first century because of this
idea they argue that verses 25 to 28
claim the second coming would happen
during the destruction of Jerusalem
although this view is the least popular
it strikes an interesting middle ground
between literal and non-literal
interpretations that is worth noting 3.
the literal perspective the final
interpretation also takes Jesus's words
very literally however proponents of
this view believe that Jesus's Second
Coming will be at the End of Time
consequently they proposed John has been
walking the Earth for the last two
thousand years
the Mormon Church the most prominent
group that promotes this view is
undoubtedly the Mormon Church in
Mormonism the modern day physical
existence of John is not just a
possibility it's a fact aside from The
Book of Mormon the LDS church has
another collection of authoritative
writings called the doctrines and
Covenants according to BYU Brigham Young
University these are a compilation of
Revelations most of which were received
by the Prophet Joseph Smith for the
establishment and governance of the
kingdom of God in the latter days it is
a standard work of the church and
functions as its open ever-expanding
ecclesiastical Constitution
section 7 of the doctrines and Covenants
says Joseph Smith and Oliver cowdery
asked God to tell them the truth behind
John 21 22 through the urim and thumbem
God then gave Smith a revelation where
he revealed an extra biblical
conversation Jesus allegedly had with
John the Revelation is a translated
version of the record made on parchment
by John and hidden up by himself one in
the Lord said unto me John my beloved
what desirous thou for if you shall ask
what you will it shall be granted unto
you two and I said unto him Lord give
unto me power over death that I may live
and bring Souls unto thee three in the
Lord said unto me verily verily I say
unto thee because thou desirest this
Thou shalt tarry until I come in my
glory and shall prophesy before Nations
kindreds tongues and people
Christianity as strange as it might
sound the belief that John never died
has been floating around the Pew since
the founding of Christianity John tells
us that Jesus's conversation with Peter
sparked rumors and debates among the
Believers however be that as it may in
Christianity this rumor never evolved
Beyond friendly speculation today there
are no major denominations that claim
the Apostle John still lives today and
as far as I can tell there never have
been yet like my middle school friend
group many people are intrigued by the
possibility
consequently if you ask around the pews
you are bound to run into people like my
middle school Bible teacher who will
neither confirm nor deny the current
existence of John the Apostle a
comparative analysis John 21 22 and
Revelation 10 verse 11. let's take a
closer look at the Intriguing passages
of John 21 22 and Revelation 10 verse
11. in John 21 verse 22 Jesus speaks to
Peter about John saying if I want him to
remain alive and until I return what is
that to you you must follow me an
enigmatic statement don't you agree what
could Jesus have meant by this some
interpret this as a reference to John's
extended lifespan potentially even up to
the return of Jesus himself
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