BROKEN BENTLEY / ROLLS ROYCE 6 ¾ L-Series V8 Full Engine Teardown

I Do Cars
27 Jan 202462:25

Summary

TLDRThe narrator tears down a broken 1987 Bentley Mulsanne V8 engine obtained from a salvage yard. He details the unusual and antiquated features of the engine, including its CIS fuel injection system, gear-driven valvetrain, and lack of cam bearings. As he disassembles the engine on a difficult-to-use stand, he uncovers damage from apparent hydrolock as well as previous disassembly attempts. He removes each component, assessing wear and marveling at the intricate machining. After 8 grueling hours, he confirms his theory that the engine sucked in water, bent a connecting rod, and punched holes in the oil pan and block.

Takeaways

  • 😲 The video details tearing down a broken 6.75L V8 Bentley engine from 1987
  • 😎 The engine is very complex and tricky to disassemble due to tight spaces and odd fastener sizes
  • 🧰 Many custom tools and creative problem-solving techniques are required during the process
  • 🔨 There is damage from both the engine failure itself and from someone trying to get it apart
  • 🔎 Upon inspection, it appears a piston hydrolocked against a counterweight, breaking a connecting rod
  • ⚙️ The engine features some interesting old technology like a mechanical fuel injection system
  • 🔧 Dissassembly takes 8 very challenging and frustrating hours
  • 🤔 The presenter believes cheap oil and infrequent changes contributed to the failure
  • 🛠 Despite difficulties, it's a rare chance to tear down an old English engine
  • 😊 The presenter has great appreciation for the experience and learning opportunity

Q & A

  • What kind of engine is being taken apart in the video?

    -A 6.75 liter V8 engine from a 1987 Bentley Mulsanne S.

  • What fuel injection system does this engine use?

    -It uses a Constant Injection System (CIS) with a fuel distributor.

  • What caused the failure of this engine?

    -The engine seems to have been hydrolocked, likely from sucking in water, which bent a connecting rod and punched holes in the oil pan and engine block.

  • How much horsepower and torque did this engine produce originally?

    -Around 230 horsepower and 400 ft-lbs of torque.

  • What complications were encountered when mounting the engine on the stand?

    -Non-standard bolt sizes made it very difficult, taking over an hour just to mount the engine.

  • How long did the full teardown process take?

    -The full teardown took around 8 hours, much longer than normal.

  • What previous repair attempts were evident on the engine?

    -The cylinder head had been poorly resurfaced and there were saw marks where someone had cut the oil pan in half to aid disassembly.

  • What driven camshaft design is used in this engine?

    -It uses a gear driven camshaft rather than a belt or chain.

  • What are some unique or notable design elements of this engine?

    -The gear driven valvetrain, two-piece timing cover, use of cotter pins to secure internal components, and lack of camshaft bearings.

  • How many engines has the narrator torn down on this YouTube channel?

    -Over 170 engines across various types, brands and configurations.

Outlines

00:00

🚗 The Origin Story

The paragraph describes how the narrator got an offer from his friend Josh at a salvage yard to get a broken Bentley engine for his YouTube channel. Though unsure of the specifics, he agrees as he enjoys learning about engine construction and dysfunction.

05:03

👀 Initial Exploration of the Engine

The paragraph documents the narrator's first impressions of the engine upon receiving it. He notes the antiquated technology, damaged state, and unrecognizable parts. Mentions finding hardware in the intake ports and a plan to disassemble the engine to evaluate the issues.

10:04

⛽️ Removing the Fuel System

The narrator works on removing fuel system components like the cold start injector, fuel distributor, and lines. He provides background on the CIS fuel injection system and notes it will likely be sold for parts due to condition.

15:05

😱 Removing the First Cylinder Head

The narrator struggles greatly to remove the first cylinder head, needing to resort to hammering and prying. Upon removal, he finds significant sludge, varnish, and wear, but no obvious damage. The head gasket is blown.

20:06

😩 Continued Cylinder Head Removal Difficulties

Removal of the second cylinder head proves even more challenging, requiring further extreme measures. The narrator finds evidence of previous amateur work and damage. Further testing confirms failed head gasket.

25:07

🔧 Beginning Disassembly of the Short Block

With the heads removed, the narrator starts disassembling the short block. He removes external components like pulleys, covers, and brackets. An attempt to remove the damper fails.

30:09

⛓️ Valve Train Disassembly Struggles

The narrator works to remove valve train components. He highlights the gear driven system and lightweight cam gear. Difficulty arises in accessing the camshaft due to trapped components.

35:11

🛠 Making Progress on Short Block Disassembly

Steady progress is made on short block disassembly by removing lifters, camshaft, hardware, oil pump, and various brackets/covers. Damage becomes visible on components like the camshaft.

40:14

😲 Damage Discovery and Analysis

Removing the oil pans reveals catastrophic failure from hydrolock. The narrator analyzes the components and damage patterns to determine how the failure occurred at low RPM.

45:16

❌ Even More Disassembly Challenges

Difficulties persist in disassembly, including accessing main caps and removing the crankshaft. The narrator proceeds methodically despite the challenges.

50:18

🔬 Failure Analysis

With the components removed, the narrator closely analyzes the failure points. He confirms the hydrolock theory and notes the lack of RPM or combustion evidence on components.

55:19

🏁 Closing Thoughts on the Teardown

The narrator reflects on the uniqueness of the engine versus the many he's torn down. He thanks Josh for the opportunity and signs off after the long, challenging, but rewarding teardown.

00:19

👍 Parting Words

Final paragraph where the narrator reiterates his enjoyment of the teardown despite the difficulties. Mentions being able to source engine parts and provides contact details.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Bentley engine

The main subject of the video is a 6.75L V8 engine from a 1987 Bentley Mulsanne S luxury sedan. This old British engine with antiquated technology represents an unusual and challenging teardown project for the host.

💡CIS

CIS or Constant Injection System is the fuel injection system used on this Bentley engine. It relies on air flow to determine the fuel amount, representing outdated technology no longer used today.

💡teardown

The core activity in the video is tearing down and disassembling this complex Bentley engine to examine its internal parts and determine why it failed.

💡hydrolocked

The host concludes the engine failure was caused by hydrolocking, which is when liquid enters the cylinder and cannot be compressed, leading to mechanical damage.

💡Bentley

Bentley is an iconic luxury automotive brand known for high-end sedan and coupes. This video examines an engine from one of their 1980s models, the Mulsanne S.

💡machining

The host frequently compliments the machining and construction of the Bentley engine components, despite the engine's flaws and failure.

💡oil

The oil system is examined in the video, including the condition of the oil pump, pickup, and passages. Oil quality issues likely contributed to the engine's demise.

💡British engine

As the host's first teardown of an authentic old British engine, this Bentley V8 poses unique challenges and learning opportunities through its unconventional designs.

💡electronics

The engine utilizes antiquated electronics by modern standards, including early mechanical fuel injection and spark systems, contrasting modern digital engine controls.

💡crankshaft

Removing the large and heavy crankshaft proves a considerable challenge. Its counterweights likely contacted a piston during the hydrolock event, directly causing engine failure.

Highlights

This is a 6.3L V8 from a 1987 Bentley Mulsanne S

The cam has a little bit of damage where it sits in the cam bearings and the lobes have some wear

The crankshaft doesn't look too bad although I banged it up a little pulling it out

The rod bearings aren't terrible but they aren't great either, one is delaminating

This rod is bent from its neighbor piston which did a catastrophe

The mark on the piston shows it likely hit the crank counterbalance when hydrolocked

I don't think this failure happened at high RPM under heavy load

The crosshatching in the cylinder walls is still visible but it had moisture sitting in it

There is a massive amount of damage to one cylinder bore

I think this engine sucked in water when hydrolocked and that's what caused the failure

The crank inertial mass punched holes in the oil pan and engine block

This is the most unique engine I've torn down compared to the 170+ others

This was an 8 hour tear down, one of the longest, but a fun challenge

I had constant 'oohs and aahs' seeing how this engine was machined and constructed

This was my first proper antique British engine tear down

Transcripts

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a couple of months ago I was pushing

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buttons on my computer machine at work

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when I got a message from my buddy Josh

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at norbs Auto Salvage buy from them

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somewhat frequently he said hey do you

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want a Bentley engine for your channel

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and I don't know about you guys but my

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head goes to yeah is it out of like a

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continental is it out of a Rolls-Royce

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something

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awesome he's like it's out of some 8s

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Bentley we've had it for a really long

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time and it's broken so I think you'll

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want it

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well I do like broken engines I also

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like learning how engines are

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constructed whether they're super late

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model or from the beginning of time so

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we worked out a deal and now I have this

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lump this is a 6 and 34 L V8 appears to

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be a push rod engine out of a what I

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assume from my research is a

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1987 Bentley msan s it's a 230

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horsepower about 400 foot-pound of

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torque V8 that propels that land yacht

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to 60 in a yawn inspiring 17 some OD

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seconds it was the 80s got to remember

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that and from looking at it uh at first

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I don't even know what all these parts

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are I know what they're trying to do but

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I don't even know what they're called so

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we're going to take this thing apart

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we're going to see uh how bad it's

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broken I can tell

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you bad and uh hopefully we have some

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fun in the process so uh let's just get

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this out of the way this is something

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called CIS or constant injection system

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it's a fuel injection system where it

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has a fuel distributor this plate which

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uh is supposed to return a little faster

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than that which dictates how much fuel

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goes to the nozzles based on the air

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flow going through the engine this is

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the non-turbo version of this engine the

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l

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410i i this engine came out in the ' 50s

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I think it ran to the late 2000s they

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had turbos on them and they made a lot

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more power like like 450 horsepower or

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something but uh this is what I would

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consider Antiquated technology you won't

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find CIS systems on anything modern I

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had a system like this on my 1983 320

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and it was uh not the easiest thing to

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figure out especially since it's before

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my time there's other things going on

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here uh this looks like a secondary air

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injection tube

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maybe I think and uh

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it's got this weird Top Hat Thing on top

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of the we're just going to take it apart

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one thing I did notice as I was

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unpacking

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it it's hurt pretty bad um there's a

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certain Door song that comes to mind but

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not all of this damage was done from

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whatever happened to this engine this

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engine was probably locked up from this

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explosion I think those holes in the pan

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were from whatever happened from the

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inside but there's also some saw marks

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on it uh there's it's been looks like

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it's been hammered on I think they had

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to do some things to take it partially

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apart so they could get the transmission

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off to get all the torque converter

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bolts out which by the way of all of the

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engines I've ever had in this shop and

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there's been a lot this was the worst

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one I've ever dealt with to put on an

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engine stand you'll notice that I'm

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using my old my original engine stand

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because I am unwilling to chop down the

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arms on my nice one and I don't have any

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bolts for this because these bolts are 9

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mm diameter thread nines why could you

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just make it an even 10 and then the

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smaller ones are

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sevens but why English that's why well

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the first logical step is to turn it

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over and it actually has a crankshaft

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nut and it is a 34 mm I'm going to call

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out some of the bolt sizes when I find

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them ridiculous because when's the last

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time you got got a chance to work on a

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Bentley

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engine

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ah I hate the

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stand okay so it moves about 6° not

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even this is going to be a real fun one

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let's pull the

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plugs oh man when I pulled the first

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spark plug out of this engine I was like

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Champions this isn't a lawnmower and

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then two cylinders later I literally

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pulled a lawn War spark plug out it's

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also a champion and I just uh I I've

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torn down some engines in my day and i'

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I've I've never I've never seen that not

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not ever not once

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I I mean it fit you got to give him some

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credit I a man this

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is this is not what I expected uh so the

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the gap on some of these plugs is way

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too small so that leads me to think that

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uh we might find some malice in the

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combustion Palace in this

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engine the straps are kind of bent to

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the side on a couple and then of course

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there's our our uh used Champion

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lawnmower I'm going to keep that I think

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that fits mine and uh I also found like

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a spider's nest in one it's clear engin

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uh had some sort of life that I wish I

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could see so I I know we need to start

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taking some bolts out I don't really

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know where to start because I mean look

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at it but I did want to point something

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interesting out this vehicle has a cold

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start injector this is something that a

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lot of Volkswagens and Audi's use uh

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from the 80s and early 90s I guess

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that's probably when it started to fade

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away and they used them to inject extra

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fuel it's a static injector does not

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pulse it's just on or off a lot of Turbo

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guys in the '90s and early 2000s used to

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use these as an additional fuel source

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you'd uh grab one of these drill a hole

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in your charge piping before the

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throttle body and then uh control it

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with a Hobs pressure switch that you

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stole off a soab turbo I know that's

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kind of nostalgic for a few of you but I

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think we're going to take this

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contraption

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off I I think I mean the bolts have to

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be on the inside of this

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right what's underneath this thing an

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intake

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Plum okay so I don't really know what

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the proper order

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is so we're just going to start taking

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stuff

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apart did that do anything for

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me how does that even come off I think I

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take it off

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here I don't know if that was the move

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I think that's the throttle

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body all right well we're just going to

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deal with that later so here are the

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bolts inside that plenum if you look

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closely I have to bend two little tangs

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so that I can get the socket on them I

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guess that's to keep them from backing

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out and going down the

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intake

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I'm not really sure what the U on all

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these bolts stands for if somebody knows

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please put that in the

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comments also seems like none of the

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hardware has flanged nuts or

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bolts that's where the carb goes next I

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think we're going to start cracking some

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of these fuel lines loose hopefully they

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come right out I have

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hope

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I wonder though should I leave the lines

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in no I don't even know if I can I feel

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like if I ship it that way if I sell it

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this is the only valuable part besides

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the valve covers I think from this

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engine I also have to find someone with

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a msan

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s it's going to be an easy

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task

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all right well these are almost all

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loose I think I'm going to crack them

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loose at their

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nozzles yeah that's what we're going to

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do hey it's

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off that's some other type of injector I

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think it looks like that's what that

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is

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oh we have some fuel in there

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still whoa that's

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bad I just need to be able to get that

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loose and swung out of the

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way

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all of this is working against

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me all right I think we're pretty close

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to pulling the Cs unit out I think the

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only thing holding it in is this rubber

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piece I think this

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is

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a yeah that's what size it was so these

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fuel Distributors this fuel system is

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often called jetronic there's l jetronic

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k jetronic and they were pretty common

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in European cars in the early 80s late

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7s all the way pretty much through the

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the late 80s depending on what kind of

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car it is and it has this fuel

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distributor and I'm not going to take

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this apart uh I'm not saying that I

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couldn't put it back together but I

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don't remember how bad that is but you

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have a plunger here and air rushes past

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this which has a fulcrum and pushes a

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pin up in here and the pin has a slot

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that gets bigger the further up it goes

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letting more fuel out that's essentially

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how it works there's all kinds of

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different things for adjustment and um

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the system is relatively reliable as

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long as old gas doesn't sit in it like

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what happened to this so this will

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probably be sold as a builder's part

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someone to take it apart clean it and

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reseal it I think I can get these fuel

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lines wait

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wait yes all right we're almost ready to

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start peeling the intake manifold off

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but we have some weird stuff I don't

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really know what this part does but it

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needs to come

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off at least this line

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does oh it's tied into this thing crank

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a vent I don't

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know this is starting to smell very

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poorly you know what this power steering

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pump that's got to

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leave eviction notice is now it also

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weighs like 48 lbs and the brackets

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loose is that I I can't even tell what

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size the bolts are on this

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engine those were a/2 inch next we're

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going to remove this smog pump line air

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injection Line This is a 3/4

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in I guess we can pull the plug wires

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off

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now so my next move was to pull the

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intake manifold we just got some bolts

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here but there's this one bolt that's

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blocked right here I thought okay maybe

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I can get a wrench on that or maybe I'll

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just remove this piece and this is

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probably o-ringed

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in and I just have to remove this off

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the timing cover water pump housing but

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then you've got this pipe here with a

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backwards bolt and I don't know how to

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get to that I'm just going to start

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taking some bolts out and see what

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happens I think this is what the manual

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says you should

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do look at all that

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room and now the backwards bolt what do

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I do

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here

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okay

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uh mhm blue what happens when

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I oh we have

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movement the question is can I get this

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out of the way

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enough without breaking it oh wait I

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think I can do something else there's

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another bolt right

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here I think I'm getting

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somewhere

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oh this bracket's in the way who

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designed this and

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why

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what well that didn't help me I guess

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we'll take this bracket

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out you know what I think I can pull it

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up with the intake now I don't think I

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need to pull that bracket let's try that

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so I have this Fancy Pants socket it's

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not really

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fancy this will work

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we got this okay and now I think we can

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zip the rest of these bolts

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[Music]

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out that sounded like all the bolts were

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out yeah well these intake ports are

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just

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massive I don't really see any problems

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in here and they're pretty clean you can

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see that injector coming down that's

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that right

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there same deal on this

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side looks like some Hardware made its

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way down in there it's not a big

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deal

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all right now I'm going to remove the

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valley cover I'm dying to know what's

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behind

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this oh spring

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loaded oh

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neat I still don't know what these do

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it's some sort of pump so each of those

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things is a little pump it's driven off

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the cam there's the lobe right there

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that drives

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it and there's the other lobe I'm not I

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suppose that's

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fuel I don't know what else it would be

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but this is like old school di but it's

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not because the uh injectors are not in

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the combustion

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chamber it's pretty

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interesting and there's

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these pretty simple

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also if you're wondering I got a mess of

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parts with this engine it was partially

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disassembled when it got

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here I don't know what I'm going to do

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with it but I have it next I'm going to

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take a minute and remove the exhaust

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manifolds

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okay it's time for the dipstick tube

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it's going to be okay it's

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English I don't know if that has any

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bearing on it or not

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but see it is finally time to peel a

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valve cover off we've been at this for a

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while now and now we can get a valve

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cover off of

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it what's it look like in there that's

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incredibly simple this is a pretty

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simple

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design feel like I'm looking at a

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tractor here I don't see anything

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obviously wrong it's pretty varnished in

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here but you have to remember in the 80s

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and '90s the quality of oil is not what

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it is

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today although I have seen engines from

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that era that look perfect inside so

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maybe this wasn't

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maintained now we're going to remove the

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rocker arm and The Rocker shaft I think

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these are

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7/16 now we'll pull the push rods

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out it's pretty interesting rocker

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design these actually bolt to head bolts

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I'll show you that in a

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minute there's our push rods

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they are there's a lot of varnish a lot

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of sludge on them for what they are but

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I don't see any

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damage all this

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looks about as what I'd expect for what

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we've seen so far so the head bolts got

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your Center

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bolts and then outside bolts here and I

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believe these are bolts here

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too I think it's about that time that we

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crack these loose and this is going to

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be a ton of fun on this engine stand

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that doesn't have brakes it'll be like

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old times so this is going to be

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interesting I have no idea what the

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sequence is I don't know if it matters

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I'm going to do my best and I can't use

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an impact socket uh just because of the

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proximity to the seat of the spring and

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how small this is I need a thin wall

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socket so I love everything about

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this hopefully they're not that

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tight they're not so

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far these are also nuts and they're

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going to get stuck in every

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single trigger

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Pole

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I don't think I missed any I also don't

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know what it's going to take to get this

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head up but I am going to get the pan

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and do my best in case anything falls

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out all right let's see if we can break

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the

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seal oh I think I'm breaking the seal

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now oh caught a little bit of leakage

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as are stud so it's going to be a little

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harder to get the uh head

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off that made no difference please

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please

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please it's laughing at me I mean I have

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a

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forklift I don't know if it knows

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that I think you guys know that we are

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leaking these washers are screwing me up

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here man I am not only riding The

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Struggle Bus I'm driving it I'm going to

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remove all of these uh washers and see

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if that helps

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me it's no different it's not better

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it's not

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worse not the way I like to do it but

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we're

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moving all right I've resorted to

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hammering soft

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things will that help

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us no

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this side is Loose as a Goose that side

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tight as some other animal that rhes

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with

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tight oh hey hey we're moving I've been

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at this for like 15 minutes now just to

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get the head

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off

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wow so I'm actually prying against the

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head gasket surface which that doesn't

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really bother me so

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much I still don't like the way I have

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to do this but this head has to come off

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I mean that's just part of the

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rules it's like stuck on one of the

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studs in the center I

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think I sure hope the other one's not

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going to be like this too I guess we get

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some penetrator to spray on it I don't

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think that's going to help me right now

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we're going to think about this a little

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different we're going to hammer some

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wood in places and it's going to be fine

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I

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think maybe not

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there's only one way to find out

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though I've never had to do this

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before oh we're making progress not the

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way I like it

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all right guys I don't know how much

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more I got to do on this thing

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but I don't even think I'm moving it any

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further looks like it's just coked oil

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holding this thing in that'd be

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insane I'm stronger than oil I guess now

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I can do this

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too

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I don't know what I'm doing

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anymore doub in

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life it's going to pull really

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hard didn't work come on cylinder head

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release I'm back with some more

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wood I don't understand I didn't want to

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do this but got my little bar

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it'll get things

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out trying not to scar up the heads you

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know you know all those Rolls-Royce

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people are going to get mad at

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me I really care about the block we know

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that's broken I'm not sure what to do

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here

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guys I don't like destroying things but

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I don't know how this head's going to

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come

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off

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all right I don't think this is going to

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work whatsoever

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but well somebody's got some better

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ideas actually look at that it's got a

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wedge I should probably do it on the

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other

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side we get somewhere with this oh I

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think I think we're

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somewhere we are so impossibly

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close

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and that head stud

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sucks all right I got it a little

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warm see if that changes

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anything whoo there whoo there whoo

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there whoo

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there I think we're getting somewhere

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because I can

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see

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yes I I can hear

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sizzling that was painful so painful and

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it stinks remind me not to agree to do a

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head job on one of these ate some

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Japanese food earlier

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so

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uh at least I had some ammo see if we

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can get this head gasket off I bet we

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can it's no longer in the condition it

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used to

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be

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I don't know if I can get this off

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because of all the junk built up on the

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bolts so that's what was keeping me from

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getting a head

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off

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man I need something for this

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heartburn so much

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crud that's that's

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rust and burnt oil

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stuff

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okay head gas gets

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off does not appear to be damag any more

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than I damaged it well first things

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first we need to do our

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test not

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okay three out of four is not bad this

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looks like a war zone in here

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but that's not from uh that's not from

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me those little marks on there I don't

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think those are from me so if you look

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that piston is straight and this one's a

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little a little rotated in in the

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bore cylinder walls don't look terrible

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from what I can see we're going to we're

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going to really clean this up quite a

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bit cylinder head doesn't look

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terrible this is the cylinder that uh uh

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probably will have a little bit of valve

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damage might be okay might have

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survived I have no idea if these heads

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are worth I don't know anything about

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what the value of this this engine has

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except for the valve covers and the uh

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fuel distributor that's it finally we

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can start on the other side

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finally now this side looks a little

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cleaner than the other side

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so I got hope that maybe I won't fight

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this so much here right this side is

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definitely

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cleaner I don't really see anything

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wrong I don't see any piles of forbidden

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glitter nothing's broken or bent that I

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can tell yet next we'll cram these

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rockers

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off these push rods look a lot better

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I'm going to get this crank case

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ventilation piece off it'll be easier to

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get the head bolts

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out back to head

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bolts

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I think we're going to deal with the

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same

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problems oh man it feels like it where's

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my big

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Mallet I think we're going to be okay

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with this one leaking I don't even care

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anymore I've got pigm and floor cleaner

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please please

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please oh my that's what I needed well

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if you notice this head gasket looks

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different because someone's been in here

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but it didn't

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matter cuz that's that's it's got a

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bloed head

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gasket it's

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bad

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and the rest of this doesn't look very

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good there's some Rust in that

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cylinder we got one suspiciously clean

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piston not in the vicinity of the one

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that's uh you know blown let's go look

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at that cylinder head so I don't know if

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you can

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tell but this was expertly

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resurfaced this is for sure one of those

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I know a guy that can do it

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cheaper but it's only it's okay because

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it's on a

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Bentley and then if you

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look that valve isn't seated it might be

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bent but it's not seated the rest of

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these appear to be

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seated looks like they even used The

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Whiz wheel in that combustion chamber I

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don't understand people I mean okay

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maybe this was the 80s or 90s when this

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happened I still don't understand it was

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even cheaper back then to have a head

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resurfaced all right let's see if we can

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get this head gasket off I am so happy

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that head came off much easier that

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would explain why that someone's been in

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here yeah look at that right

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there not good now it's time for our

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test a perfect score now we can start on

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the short block let's get this broken

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crank

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pulley

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that wasn't terrible now will this come

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off

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okay do I need a puller for this please

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tell me I don't need a p for

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this nah we're

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good I don't even know if I needed to do

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that

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blue Woody and blue what do you

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know

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on hang in

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there watch

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out I have no idea if this is going to

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work I'm going to go with no but you

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guys can

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watch maybe you'll learn what not to

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do it's literally laughing at me this is

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not the way let's try this puller will

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it work I don't know no that's why I

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said

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try doesn't appear to want to work let's

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try

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this there seems to be Parts falling off

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of this is it important parts yes it's

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important

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parts

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yeah it came right off of there

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again

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that's not supposed to

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happen all right what happened we were

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moving now we're not let's try this

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again it doesn't seem to be too happy

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right now let's uh get a breaker bar on

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it hopefully it doesn't rotate the

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puller like

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that bad stuff's happening all right

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we're going to have to reset well guys I

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got really

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lucky really lucky I literally just put

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this on here and

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pulled and it came

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off that was not fun and I know what

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you're were saying you should just use

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the bolt holes use your puller with the

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bolt holes well I would do that if uh

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these weren't 7 by 75 or whatever size

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this

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is yeah not great well now that that

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debacle is over let's start zipping some

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more bolts

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out

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I probably could use that

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bolt and that

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one well I'll save him for next time

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look at this horse hockey the bolts were

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R my face the whole

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time there this bracket that's in the

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way here wait a

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minute H someone's been here before

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well I have two more

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13s this is one of the most bizarre

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engines I've worked on in a long

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time I think I've got all the bolts out

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of

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it it looks like it might have a

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two-piece timing cover like it looks

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like there's a seam right here which

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seems like a very bad idea to me but

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what do I know let's uh give it a little

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thk

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wow did not expect

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that see inside of the timing cover it's

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got this little overlap here with uh it

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looks

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like nothing keeps it from leaking I

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don't see a seal or RTV I would wager

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they're supposed to be let's see if we

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can get the bottom one off

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now

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wow that's kind of cool this is uh

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unexpected I did not expect to find a a

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gear driven valve train but that's what

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we have here this is a giant cam

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gear and I bet that weighs a lot maybe

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it's

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aluminum there's no tensioner to

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fail this is kind of cool I'm going to

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unbolt this and we we'll see what

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happens parts are

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falling it's aluminum look at that piece

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of equipment right

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there that's uh that was unexpected it's

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pretty neat

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actually I kind of like it now it's time

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to pull the

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lifters nope those

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staked they sure are this is going to be

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fine it's going to be fine guys it's

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fine Bend these clips with magic you

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know what I I can probably slide these

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lifters up and out without pulling these

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out yeah flat taets will they all fit

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out this way what do we

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think yes no maybe

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so so far so

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good and they're out these are flat

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taets there's a little bit a

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wear they don't look

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terrible I think we would see some

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damage to the cam if we saw a damage to

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one of

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these all look pretty

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good and they're

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just pretty simple design because I

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don't know how the distributor is driven

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I'm just going to remove this little

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pedestal

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I do have the distributor but it just

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wasn't

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installed I don't know if this is going

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to do anything or not I'm going to go

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with

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not just give it a little

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tap does that come out on its

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own hey that was the right call next

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this cam plate oh all of those have

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little Keepers too actually all of these

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are like that this is going to take a

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hot minute

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okay let's see what

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happens that's all that is so I have one

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long bolt it came with the

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hardware from this engine we're going to

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use that to pull the cam shaft out hope

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this is all it takes

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it isn't all it takes missed the

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lifter I don't think that's going to be

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enough

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though oh

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no this just got a lot more complicated

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so it appears that there's an access

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panel back here for what I don't know

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but uh it's going to be a lot of fun to

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get to because the ring gear is trapped

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in here and hopefully it doesn't get in

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the way is I really don't want to pull

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the engine back off the stand it's not

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fun it's not a great time guys okay wish

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me luck

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here it's fine just don't look there so

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there's a

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gear oh that's for the that's the

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distributor gear I can do

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this oh please don't be

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staked they don't look like they're

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staked or chickened this just keeps

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getting more funner and funner figured

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I'd try a little light on the situation

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here so you can see what I'm

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doing all right there's

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one I think I got it and I when I say

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staked I mean there's just a piece

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holding it that's Stak is a different

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thing I know

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that oh this is so fun this is one of

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those things you do before you take

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anything else apart uh let me get an

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extension this is quarter drive this is

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going to be

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great how can I lock the cam up now that

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nothing can stop the cam from turning

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well I have some ideas this will do it

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right see goes like that and stops it

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right or will it go this way either way

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I think we're

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covered

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I think we are in

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luck now will this just fall right off

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probably not let's see if we can get

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this cam to knock that off of

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there yeah and then will this come

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out wow that's That's Heavy that's

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brass that's kind of cool it'd be a cool

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piece on the desk okay see this should

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just come out nice and easy

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can help it on the other side since I've

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access through the

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valley well the cam definitely has a

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little bit of damage where it sits in

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the cam

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bearings lobes have a little bit of wear

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as well they're not quite as peaky as

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they used to

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be they just looks like a tired old cam

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shaft a six and 3/4

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race cam I'm just kidding and this uh

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distributor drive gear is some pretty

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nice machine work on this engine I must

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admit and it looks like this engine

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doesn't use cam bearings at least not

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there or anywhere else so if it trashes

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this um I guess you you drill it out and

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you put a bearing in its

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place they don't look terribly

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worn it's pretty interesting design

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though

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next we're going to see if there's any

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residuals in the oil pan before I roll

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it

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over empty that's what I like to see

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well now I'm going to roll this thing

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over this is the part I've been

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dreading since I had it on the stand I

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just I don't I'm not looking forward to

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this hopefully I've taken enough weight

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off of this to uh make it not so

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terrible please don't be terrible

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oh we're leaking I don't I I'm pan lless

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whatever I got enough pigm

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here oh it's leaking all kinds of stuff

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well it looks like someone shot a couple

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rods through the pan Which um it's

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probably what happened here it also

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looks like someone tried to saw this

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thing in half it actually looks like

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there's only one bolt holding it

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together there's only one bolt holding

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it together so this is a one piece pan

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converted to a two-piece

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pan look at those Exit

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Wounds and this is thick steel this is

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from the 80s that 80s British steel and

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what do we have in here oh oh there's

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some damage let's pull the second oil

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pan off of

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this

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M it's not quite the party platter I

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hope for but we still got some stuff

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well um it looks like there's damage

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from both the engine itself and what

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someone did to

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it that's a a spectacle there this right

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here stay in one spotl this is from

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using an air ch with a non-turn collet I

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think I don't think that's something the

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engine did to itself and that is a piece

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of

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block and uh the Picasso in there that's

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the engine's

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doing what is

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this I can't tell what that is but

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there's another piece right

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here well I think that eliminates the

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fact that that's rod bearing that's not

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it's probably pan gasket and someone

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definitely cut this thing in half

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probably to get this to turn over so

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they could get the torque

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converter what a terrible job that was

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they had a bad day the inside of the

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crane case isn't quite as chaotic as you

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would

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expect I have a feeling that some of

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this was done not by the engine itself

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but by whoever tried to get this thing

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unstuck and I can tell you that this one

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is loose that's just fingertight this

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hole is massive and it was probably made

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so that they could get access to both of

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these I mean when the engine's broken

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the engine's broken you can't really

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help it if you want to sell the

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transmission now I have no idea who is

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putting a transmission in a 1987 msan

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but if you want to sell it you got to

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have it

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out pickup isn't full of

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debris I think at this point it is time

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to pull the oil pump off this engine

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it's right here and uh we'll see how

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that

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goes thank God those weren't cap

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captured there's something else holding

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this in let's get blue on this

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job I'm I'm ruining it which is okay

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with

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me selling an oil line out of a engine

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that's blown up like this is not really

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on my list of uh achievements that I'd

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like to to do in my

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life well that's ruined now

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jeez yeah

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has some stuck in some doels you know

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we're going to take this apart it's old

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technology I want to see if there's a

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Paddle Wheel in

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here I don't know if I'll be able to get

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either of these out oh that one comes

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out oh

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cool those are pretty neat

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pieces this one's going to

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require some some time that I'm not

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going to spend I could take that uh

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looks like a cotter pin get that off

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but let's get this sprayed down and see

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if we can see any damage well there is

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somewhere at the

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edge of this

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rotor I don't know if that's normal this

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is the you know this is the very first

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one of these I've

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ever torn down but that definitely looks

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like some wear to me the rest of it

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looks pretty decent little bit of wear

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on that and I can't really tell what

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this looks like but I would wager it's

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similar to these two pieces

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here kind of neat pieces and more

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captured stuff it looks like it's my

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favorite can I use this to turn the

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crank nope I can use it to turn the

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motor just not the crank I I got to

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start at the front it's like my thing

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you know hygiene but uh I am going to

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start with what I have access

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to and that's just how it's going to

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have to be I don't see any other way

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suppose we're going to start with these

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two cylinders here if I can get on yes I

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can these are 12 point half inch I'm

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just kidding they're

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[Applause]

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13s

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I'm not sure I can get these out this

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way I might have to do this with all of

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them although I don't know if I can do

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that that way let's see if we can tap

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them

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out

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yeah look at them

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suckers

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gigantic see if we can get

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this oh

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yes wait a minute something's wrong here

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I think this is the one that blew

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up hey look at that that's what did all

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the

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damage I know I might ruin

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it well that part is inside the broken

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side

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so that doesn't want to go anywhere so

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we're going to come back to that we're

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going to go to something else we can get

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out now this may not work because the

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studs at the rod cap bolts

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to might hit the

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block or the

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crank it does can I have my glove

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back yes so that does not work uh let me

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get my big bar and let's see if we can

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turn this thing over first let's try

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this I don't really want to pry against

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the meeting surface of the oil

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pan also I suppose I should put the bolt

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back in it and by bolt I mean pin of

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course pin I wouldn't do this with a

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bolt okay well it bent my long punch but

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it's okay we can just do it the other

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way and get it back straight see you can

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never tell if this doesn't do it it

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should have H that didn't do

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it there we go we moved it a little bit

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can almost get that one

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out ah yes I think I can get that one

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out my hope is that the more I remove

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the easier this gets to turn

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over oh that's full of fluid I think I

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can get this one off now oh

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yeah

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now I have no idea what uh I want to do

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oh look at that oh

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yes that is

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stupendous okay we'll get uh this one

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and these two that's

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it

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[Applause]

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uh-oh we have problems the bolt is

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spinning because it popped out of the uh

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pumped out of the

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rod there we're back in

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Biz okay let's get these main cap bolts

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out will you shut up fitting it's

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actually not the fitting it's the Air

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Line itself need to replace

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it

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okay so to get these out I just need

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to I have no idea if that's doing

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anything how are you supposed to get

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these out they're not threaded so you

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can't use a uh Slide Hammer maybe you're

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supposed to use blue I don't

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know yeah that seems reasonable

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yeah that's what you're supposed to

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do that wasn't too bad now the next

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question can I lift the crank out of

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it okay it's heavy

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this is going to be a problem this is

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going to be a problem it's all going to

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be

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fine this is good for

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it I think every step of this engine has

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been a

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[Music]

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challenge

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well the crank's

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out

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ah ah yeah all right now I'm going to

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use my brass drift I'm going to get this

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thing

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out well let's start with the rod

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bearings they're not

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terrible they're not great either

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that one's

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delaminating there's definitely been

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some uh low quality oil I would say low

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quality oil as well as extended oil

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change intervals for time these cars

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typically don't get a bunch of miles on

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them and I'm not going to say that's

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because they don't run long enough for

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that to happen but you can say that and

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let's get to what's broken so rods and

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pistons they are

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massive

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they don't look great this one has a

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bunch of damage and that's from its

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neighbor which did a

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catastrophe that Rod is

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bent and there's the short end of the

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rod and this is very telling this is

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this is going to tell us exactly what

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happened here

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because see that Mark right there on the

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bottom of the

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Piston I would bet money real money like

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10 cents or so that the bottom of this

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piston made contact with counterbalance

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of the crankshaft because it compressed

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a liquid now whether that was fuel

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whether that was coolant or whether that

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was water uh that's anybody's guess at

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this point but this engine was

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hydrolocked and it broke a rod I think

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it happened at a relatively low RPM but

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if you think about the rotational mass

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of all of this the size of that Crank

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that can do some major damage especially

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on a cast block like it is so that's the

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damage there

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the rest of the rods and pistons don't

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look too bad they're full floaters

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interesting interesting uh piston design

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they're very

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heavy not a ton of uh skirt wear Okay I

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lied there's some skirt

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wear not not on all of

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them some of them are worse than

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others

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these I have no idea if anybody would

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ever buy these unless you wanted one for

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your desk in which case everything out

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of this engine's available uh I don't

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think anyone that actually owns one of

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these old cars needs parts or maybe they

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need all the parts who knows and if you

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own one of these cars and you need parts

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for it well I'm

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sorry now let's go to the

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crankshaft so the crankshaft doesn't

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look too too terrible although I did

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kind of bang it up a little bit pulling

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it out I'm not going to lie wasn't the

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nicest to it I don't know that this has

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any value whatsoever but let's see if we

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can find marks on the counterbalance let

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me uh turn this crank over well this is

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the area that would have struck it and I

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don't really see a whole

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lot of marks on

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here which is kind of

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surprising but I think the crankshaft

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did make that Mark or maybe it was at

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the neighbor I don't think it was the

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neighbor Rod it was it was definitely

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the crankshaft that would have done

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that it makes the rod shorter and the

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clearance between these counterbalances

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and the base of the Piston I'll grab the

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Piston take a look at

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that see it would have been this this

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this direction

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here yeah maybe

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uh maybe it it didn't it didn't even hit

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it that hard but it was enough to break

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the rod I think this happened at low RPM

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I don't think this was a high RPM

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failure pain bearings aren't super

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bad that one's starting to come

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apart not awful the inside of the

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block there's a massive damage to that

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boore and and again I don't think all of

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this these holes all of this missing

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block was from uh what occurred to this

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engine I think most of this was actually

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from someone trying to get the crank to

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turn because with that short Rod bent at

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an angle I'm sure it did

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not the rest of this looks pretty decent

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I'm going to roll this over and we'll

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take a look at those BS well the

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cross-hatching is very visible

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still and it definitely had some

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moisture sitting in it you know this

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engine I think it sat on the shelf for

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many many many years before Josh thought

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it was a great idea for me to have it on

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the channel I

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agree I think this was

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fun everything looks pretty solid here

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not a lot of work needed to fix this

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except for you know the gaping holes in

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it here's a better look at the damage at

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the

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bottom it's pretty

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bad the rest of the boards look really

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quite

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nice

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what's interesting too is see there's a

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little bit of material missing right

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there not on accidents by

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Design look like liners

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actually there's only one thing left to

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do see if the shoe

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fits I and there's something about

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Cinderella in this I'm not talking about

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a glove I'm talking about a

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shoe look at look at that it's almost

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perfect yeah I don't think this engine

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turn I think we can probably count the

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number of revolutions this crankshaft

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turned after the rod snapped I would say

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this is probably two or three hits

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that's one and then the one or two in

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the block this shut down really quickly

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I've torn down 170 something engines

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over the last 3 years on this channel

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which is a staggering statistic and it

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blows my mind but we've covered a lot of

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bases we've had gasoline engines we had

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diesel engines medium duty diesel engine

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a caterpillar did a v twin out of a

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motorcycle a three-cylinder lots of four

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cylinders six-cylinders 8 cylinders

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we've done several v10s a V12 a rotary

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we' had push rod engines overhead cam

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engines direct injected Port injected

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dual injected carburated small block

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Chevrolet turbocharged supercharged twin

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turbocharged we've had engines from

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every single continent that produces

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cars and if you average those all

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together and you formulate the normal

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engine that we would find on my stand

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every Saturday night this is the

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furthest departure from normal that I

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can remember it is also the first proper

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English engine that I've torn down yes

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I've done Jaguars and I've done Rover

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engines but those are Ford engines this

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was a real British

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engine and I had a great time this was

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so much fun so many oo and Oz inside my

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brain when Parts came off to see how it

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went together the Machining was

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interesting the tooling was unique this

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was a I had such a great time it also

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took 8 hours this was an 8 Hour tear

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down most of my tear Downs are between 3

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and 4 hours I am tired my back hurts my

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brain hurts my 11 mm socket hurts this

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took a lot it took an hour just to get

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this engine on the stand there was a lot

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that was an ordeal but I had a great

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time regardless and I I owe Josh a huge

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thank you for even the suggestion

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because this is not an engine I would

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normally have on my radar but the fact

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it was offered to me put it there and we

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all have Josh to thank for that now this

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engine I think uh sucked in water I

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don't think it was fuel because fuel

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typically would clean a piston same with

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hot coolant but cold standing water

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won't and it also still doesn't compress

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I think it compressed that Rod it broke

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the rod and if you think about that 75lb

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crankshaft plus eight rods and pistons

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which are not light and the valve train

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under power it takes a lot for that to

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stop I don't think it was at high RPM

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under heavy load or anything but that's

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still a lot of inertia and it punched

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several holes in the pan in the block it

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did a lot of damage for a relatively low

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RPM that's just the way I see this

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failure

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regardless this has a lot of really cool

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parts so if you want any of the parts

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out of this engine or anything else I've

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torn down you can go to import apart.com

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or you can email us I'll put our email

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in the video description or if you want

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Parts off of another Miata yeah I know I

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buy Miatas okay gosh anyway I hope you

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enjoyed this tear down I'm ready to go

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home and get some sleep as always I love

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all the comments all the feedback and

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even the criticism I love it all and

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I'll catch you on the next one one

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