CMF Watch Pro 2: Scientific Review (New Nothing Watch)

Summary

In this review, the CMF Watch Pro 2 is put to the test for its sports and health tracking capabilities. The reviewer struggles to access raw data, making a traditional analysis impossible. They resort to a qualitative assessment, comparing the watch's data with reference devices during outdoor and indoor cycling, weightlifting, and sleep tracking. The watch underperforms in heart rate tracking during outdoor cycling and weightlifting, with poor agreement between the two watches and the reference. Sleep stage tracking also shows limited agreement with the reference, leading to a lack of confidence in the watch's capabilities. Despite decent screen quality and responsiveness, the watch fails to impress as a reliable sports and health tracker.

Takeaways

• 😤 The reviewer is extremely frustrated with the cmf watch Pro 2, stating it's a 'nightmare to review'.
• ⏱️ The reviewer wasted two hours trying to understand the watch's features without success.
• 📊 Lack of data access prevents the reviewer from making the usual quantitative analysis.
• 🚴‍♂️ Heart rate tracking during outdoor cycling showed poor agreement with the reference device.
• 🏋️‍♀️ Indoor cycling and weightlifting tests revealed some tracking issues, though slightly better than outdoor cycling.
• 😴 Sleep stage tracking did not align well with the reference device, and there was little agreement between the two watches.
• 📍 The watch's GPS functionality was unreliable and often failed to connect.
• 💤 The watch accurately detected sleep and wake times but failed to track sleep stages effectively.
• 📱 Despite poor sports and health tracking, the watch's screen and smart features are considered decent.
• 💸 The reviewer suggests that for those seeking a sports or health tracker, older generation Fitbits or Huawei bands might be better value.
• 👍 The reviewer encourages viewers to subscribe, comment, and like the video to support the channel.

Q & A

What was the reviewer's main issue with the cmf watch Pro 2?

The reviewer's main issue was that they could not extract the raw data from the watch, making it impossible to review its Sports and Health tracking features properly.

How did the reviewer plan to review the watch without raw data?

The reviewer planned to conduct a more qualitative review by comparing the data from the cmf Watch app with data from reference devices.

What activities did the reviewer use to test the watch's performance?

The reviewer used outdoor cycling, indoor cycling, weightlifting, and sleep tracking to test the watch's performance.

How did the cmf watch Pro 2 perform in heart rate tracking during outdoor cycling?

The watch showed poor agreement with the reference device, failing to detect the reviewer's maximum heart rate accurately.

What was the reviewer's experience with the watch's heart rate tracking during indoor cycling?

The watch performed slightly better during indoor cycling, detecting some of the heart rate patterns, but still with noticeable inaccuracies.

How accurate was the cmf watch Pro 2 in tracking heart rate during weightlifting?

The watch did not accurately track the peaks in heart rate during weightlifting, showing significant discrepancies compared to the reference device.

What was the reviewer's assessment of the watch's sleep stage tracking?

The reviewer found the sleep stage tracking to be unpromising, with only marginal agreement between the two watches and the reference device.

Did the reviewer encounter any issues with the watch's GPS functionality?

Yes, the reviewer faced issues with the GPS connectivity, which took a long time to connect and often failed to connect even in urban areas.

What did the reviewer suggest as an alternative to the cmf watch Pro 2 for Sports and Health tracking?

The reviewer suggested considering older generation Fitbit or a Xiaomi Mi Band as better value for money options for Sports and Health tracking.

What was the reviewer's overall opinion of the cmf watch Pro 2 as a smartwatch?

While the reviewer found the screen to be responsive and bright, they concluded that the watch was not a good health and sports tracker based on their testing.

What did the reviewer recommend for those interested in sleep or heart rate tracking?

The reviewer recommended checking out specific videos for top recommendations on sleep tracking and heart rate tracking devices.

Outlines

00:00

😓 Frustration with the cmf Watch Pro 2

The reviewer expresses strong dissatisfaction with the cmf Watch Pro 2, stating that it was a waste of time trying to understand its features. They found it particularly challenging to extract data from the watch for analysis, which is unusual as they typically enjoy this process. The watch's promised Strava integration failed to deliver, with no data appearing. Due to these issues, the reviewer could not perform a standard review and resorted to a qualitative assessment using the cmf Watch app and reference data. They tested the watch during various activities, including cycling and weightlifting, but were disappointed with the heart rate tracking accuracy, which did not align well with their reference device. The reviewer also mentions issues with the watch's GPS connectivity.

05:00

🚴‍♂️ Mixed Results in Tracking Performance

In this paragraph, the reviewer discusses the performance of the cmf Watch Pro 2 in tracking different activities. For indoor cycling, the watch showed some improvement in heart rate tracking compared to outdoor cycling, although it still missed some peaks and dips. The reviewer also attempted to test the watch during weightlifting but found that it failed to detect the expected heart rate peaks, suggesting poor performance in this area. They concluded that while the watch might be suitable for basic smartwatch functions due to its responsive screen, it does not excel as a health and sports tracker, especially when compared to other devices in a similar price range.

10:00

💤 Sleep and GPS Tracking Issues

The reviewer analyzes the cmf Watch Pro 2's sleep stage tracking capabilities and finds the results to be only marginally promising, with limited agreement between the two watches tested and the reference device. They note that while the watch can roughly detect sleep and wake times, its accuracy in identifying sleep stages is questionable. Additionally, the reviewer shares their frustration with the watch's GPS functionality, which they found to be slow and unreliable, even in urban environments with only moderate building obstructions. They suggest that potential buyers looking for reliable sports and health tracking might want to consider other options, such as older Fitbit models or Huawei bands, which offer better value for money.

Keywords

💡cmf watch Pro 2

The cmf watch Pro 2 is the central subject of the video, a smartwatch that the reviewer is attempting to evaluate. It is defined as a device that should integrate with various health and sports tracking features. The video's theme revolves around the difficulties the reviewer faced in using this watch, particularly in accessing raw data and its performance in tracking activities such as cycling and weightlifting.

💡Data Access

Data Access refers to the ability to retrieve information from a device, which is crucial for the reviewer to analyze the watch's performance. In the script, the reviewer expresses frustration with the cmf watch Pro 2's inability to provide raw data, which hinders a comprehensive review and is a significant issue as it prevents quantitative analysis.

💡Qualitative Analysis

Qualitative Analysis is a method of evaluation that is based on observations and interpretations rather than numerical data. The reviewer resorts to this method due to the inability to access raw data from the cmf watch Pro 2. It is used to compare the watch's data with reference devices, as shown in the script where the reviewer looks at data from the cmf Watch app side by side with reference data.

💡Heart Rate Tracking

Heart Rate Tracking is a feature that monitors the beats per minute (BPM) of a user's heart, which is essential for sports and health tracking. The video discusses the watch's performance in this area, noting significant discrepancies between the cmf watch Pro 2's readings and those of reference devices during outdoor cycling and weightlifting sessions.

💡Outdoor Cycling

Outdoor Cycling is a type of physical activity that the reviewer uses to test the watch's capabilities. It serves as a context to evaluate the watch's heart rate tracking feature. The script describes how the watch failed to accurately track heart rates during outdoor cycling sessions, showing poor agreement with the reference device.

💡Indoor Cycling

Indoor Cycling is another physical activity used for testing, typically considered easier for devices to track due to controlled environments. The reviewer notes that while the cmf watch Pro 2 performs slightly better in this setting, it still shows significant inaccuracies in heart rate tracking compared to the reference devices.

💡Weightlifting

Weightlifting is a strength training exercise that the reviewer includes in the test to assess the watch's ability to track heart rate changes during intense activity. The script indicates that the watch failed to detect expected heart rate peaks during weightlifting, suggesting poor performance in tracking high-intensity exercises.

💡Sleep Stage Tracking

Sleep Stage Tracking is the feature that monitors different phases of sleep, such as REM and deep sleep. The reviewer analyzes two nights of sleep data and finds that the cmf watch Pro 2 does not align well with the reference device, indicating unreliable sleep stage detection.

💡GPS Connectivity

GPS Connectivity is a feature that allows the watch to determine geographic location and track outdoor activities. The reviewer mentions experiencing difficulties with the cmf watch Pro 2's GPS, as it often failed to connect, even in urban environments with some obstructions, which questions its utility for many users.

💡Smartwatch

A Smartwatch is a category of wearable devices that offer computing and smartphone-like features. While the cmf watch Pro 2 is positioned as a smartwatch, the reviewer suggests that despite its decent screen quality and responsiveness, it falls short as a health and sports tracker, which is a significant drawback for its intended purpose.

💡Value for Money

Value for Money refers to the cost-effectiveness or worth of a product relative to its price. The reviewer concludes that other devices, like older generation Fitbit or a Whoop strap, offer better value for money in terms of health and sports tracking, suggesting that the cmf watch Pro 2 may not be the best investment for those seeking these features.

Highlights

Difficulty in understanding the cmf watch Pro 2's features after spending two hours.

Challenges in extracting data from the watch for analysis.

Lack of promised Strava integration and absence of data.

Inability to access raw data, affecting the comprehensiveness of the review.

Qualitative review approach due to lack of raw data.

Comparison of cmf Watch app data with reference data.

Heart rate tracking during outdoor cycling shows poor agreement with the reference.

Indoor cycling heart rate tracking shows slightly better results.

Weightlifting heart rate tracking does not detect expected peaks.

Forgetting the watch connected to the data collection device.

Poor agreement between the watches and the reference for sleep stage tracking.

Only marginal agreement between the two watches for sleep tracking.

GPS connectivity issues during workouts.

Recommendation to consider older generation Fitbit or a Whoop strap for better value.

The watch's screen is responsive and bright, a positive aspect.

Encouragement for viewers to subscribe, comment, and like the video.

Suggestion to check other reviewers for a broader perspective.

Transcripts

I hate this watch I really really hate

it I just wasted two hours of my life

and none of that has got me any closer

to understanding how good this watch

actually is so better wording might be

that the cmf watch Pro 2 is just a

nightmare to review I normally love

getting the data out of a new watch and

seeing my computer code generator grass

we need to test these watches for their

Sports and Health tracking but that's

just impossible for this watch they

promis Trava integration but it just

doesn't work at least no data appears

for my two watches getting to the actual

data these watches collect is something

I haven't been able to manage but who

knows maybe my personal monkey brain

just wasn't able to figure out it out

all of that means is that this review

will be slightly different from my

normal reviews in two ways first since

I'm not going to be able to access the

raw data which would normally allow me

to make more quantitative plots like

this and this instead it would be more

qualitative meaning we'll just look at

the data from The cmf Watch app side by

side with the data from my references

the second thing that is different is

that I cannot justify spending a lot of

time testing this watch when I cannot

actually get the raw data out so first

I'm going to use some cycling data I

collected yesterday which we will look

at now then I'll collect some more data

during an indoor cycling test and

weightlifting session right after this

and we review that and finally our were

both watches to bed last night and we'll

do the same thing tonight and we'll have

two nights of data to compare against

the Sleep EG reference so let's get to

it and as I said I want to start by

looking at the heart rate tracking

performance during outdoor cycling and I

did two short cycling sessions and here

you can see the result results for the

first session on the top left we have

the heart rate as recorded by the cmf

watch Pro 2 on my left wrist on the

bottom left here we have the results for

the one on my right wrist and on the

right here we have the reference heart

rate which you assume to be correct and

as you can see overall the patterns look

quite different first of all we can in

general see that there's very little

detail in the heart rate recorded by the

cmf watch Pro 2 there's a bit of

deviation right here in the Middle where

both of them detected a dip in my heart

rate but as you can see over all even

between the two watches the patterns

look quite different in the beginning

they are somewhat the same maybe but you

can see for instance during this second

part the one on my right wrist detected

a much lower heart rate than the one on

my left wrist and both of them were

quite a bit lower than the reference so

my maximum heart rate during this

cycling session was about 160 170 BPM

and the watches don't come close to that

so overall this doesn't look very good

so overall I'm not very happy with this

there's not much agreement between the

two watches and the two watches and the

reference so very different results and

here we have the results for the second

cycling session where again I would say

there's poor agreement with the

reference ofice maybe there's a little

bit better agreement between the two

watches but even that isn't very good

for instance right here the watch on my

left wrist detected a peak in my heart

rate which wasn't detected by the one on

my right wrist maybe here in the middle

we see the best agreement and this also

looks somewhat similar to the reference

device but overall very poor agreement

again the maximum heart rate detected by

the reference device is over 150 bpm and

the Watch 2 never detected a heart rate

even close to 150 bpm so overall not a

first good sign but let's actually take

a step back and make it a little bit

easier for these watches let's look at

cycling indoors I'm going to do a

cycling session indoors now where

watches generally have less trouble

tracking my heart rate and as always my

reference is the polar h10 ECG chest

strap and I also have a second chest

strap as a backup so let's see how these

watches do for indoor cycling it's the

next day now and I'm at work and I was

hoping to look at the heart rate results

for indoor cycling and weightlifting for

these two guys but unfortunately I've

forgot the watch that they are connected

to so I cannot look at the results for

my interval indoor cycling sessions the

pattern should look something like this

so with a lot of Peaks and also some

valleys and for weight lifting we expect

some Peaks like this where each time I

did a set of exercises my heart rate

increases so we'll now have to wait

until I'm home to see how these watches

actually did for indoor cycling and

weightlifting I also considered having

Rafel test these watches Rafel what

would you say if I asked you to review

and test one of these cmf watch Pro 2os

they look cool no you're supposed to say

they're ugly I hate them they're stupid

no they're not ugly are they really bad

so far yes I don't want to invest any

more time I wouldn't want to waste your

time then I don't want to test them

please right answer there's the bin wow

it's really SP okay I'm home now it's

now time to look at the watches side by

side with the reference and see if they

did any better with these other

exercises so cycling indoors and

weightlifting let's take a look at my

computer here and here we have the

results for spinning with the reference

on the right the watch on my left wrist

on the top left and the one on my right

wrist on the bottom left and as you can

see this looks a little bit better than

what we saw for cycling outside so we

see some of the same patterns but we see

for instance at the watch on the top

left misses some of the dips here in the

beginning and also a peak right here and

also the watch on my right wrist shows

some major defects we see missed a

complete Peak right here also this peak

was not completely tracked and here one

of the dips was also missed so it does

look a little bit better it's not

complete nonsense what it's tracking but

also not very good but let's take a look

at weightlifting now and the results for

weightlifting are right here with the

reference on the right where each time I

did a set of exercises I had a peak in

my heart rate and as you can see neither

of the watches really detected these

Peaks they might have detected them a

little bit but as you can see most of

the time the peak in my heart rate was

around 113 BPM and this was basically

never reached by these watches there's

this weird Peak right here in the

beginning for the one on my right wrist

but otherwise they never went over 100

BPM so for weightlifting it isn't very

good all right that really doesn't look

good in terms of heart rate tracking for

the cmf watch Pro 2 maybe for cycling

indoors it's okay it detects quite a lot

of the Peaks at least partially but for

cycling outside and for weightlifting it

doesn't look very promising again this

is a very initial review I cannot get to

R it and I don't want to spend the time

on this watch if I can't but it will

give you a first impression at least of

the performance of this watch and please

also compare to the first generation of

the watch which I'll link up here but

let's next take a look at sleeve stage

tracking maybe this is a bit better

again I cannot do this quantitatively

but just qualitatively and I just

analyzed the two last nights of data

based on my EG reference on this Windows

laptop right here a cheap one from

Amazon so let's see how it did and here

we have the first night I wanted to

share with you now on the bottom here we

have the reference device where you can

see the sleep stages along the vertical

a

and the time along the horizontal axis

and I tried to align the results for the

two watches so the one on my right wrist

here in the middle and the one on my

left wrist on the left as good as I

could with the reference device and as

you can see there is some agreement so

some of the deep sleep so slow wave

sleep s SWS here detected by the

reference device is also detected right

here in Red by the two watches but it

doesn't match that well honestly and you

can also see there are quite some

differences between the two watches some

parts degree quite okay between the

watches so here in the end for instance

and here in the middle well you can also

see that here in the beginning there's

quite a big differences and also R sleep

agreement which you can see in red right

here according to the reference and in

Gray right here according to the two

watches this also doesn't look that good

honestly there's some agreement so this

second third and fourth R sleep segment

detected by both watches somewhat

overlap with the reference device but

not perfectly and it also detects much

less Ram sleep and a bit of extra Ram

sleep right here for this one watch and

right here for this watch so overall to

me this doesn't look very promising but

let's look at the second night the

results for the second night are

displayed right here with again the

reference on the bottom the watch on my

right wrist here in the middle and the

one on my left wrist here on the top and

as you can see again I would say there's

only a marginal agreement let's first

look at Ram sleep again in red according

to the reference device we can see that

the reference device detected 1 2 3 four

five Ram sleep segments and these really

don't seem to align very well with the

sleep stages as detected by the two

watches so the watches detected both one

two three four Ram sleep segments and in

position they also don't match very well

at the reference device so at a start

that already doesn't look very good now

in terms of deep sleep we also don't see

very good agreement we can see that the

reference device mostly detected deep

sleep here in the beginning of the night

and this overlaps somewhat with the

reference devices but not very good

honestly and the watches also de quite a

bit of deep sleep here in the middle and

even near the end of the night a lot

more than the reference device does so

overall to me this doesn't look very

promising and again there's also only

marginal agreement between the two

watches so if the two watches them s

cannot agree I cannot trust their sleep

stage tracking honestly the one thing I

can say is good about the Sleep stage

detection of these watches is that they

detect about the same time I fell asleep

and the same time I woke up so you could

potentially use to detect your total

time in bed but that's about it I

wouldn't trust it to do anything else

and that's not all we didn't discuss

this yet but this watch also has GPS or

at least it's supposed to have GPS I

always tried to start my workout with

GPS but it always took forever to

connect and it basically never connected

while I was waiting for it to connect

and sometimes I waited for minutes yes

there were some buildings around not

super tall ones but some buildings at

least but I always started them at the

same place where I always do my testing

and other watches have no problems there

so I don't know what they want most

people will do workouts inside the city

as well and if it doesn't work for that

why do we even have GPS in this watch

and at R just doesn't have it at least

that's my experience I just got super

frustrated waiting for it to connect and

in the end after a few minutes I just

always gave up by the way I hope that my

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back to the testing as you might have

guessed overall my experience with the

Sports and Health tracking of the cmf

watch Pro 2 just isn't very good I

couldn't do a full review that isn't

because I didn't want to make one I just

wasn't able to get the data that I

needed to do a quantitative analysis now

looking Beyond health and sports

tracking the watch in itself isn't bad

the screen is pretty good it's

responsive and bright enough so at least

in that sense it's not bad at all and

given the price it might make a decent

Smartwatch it just isn't a good health

and Sports Tracker at least on on me as

always this testing is just on me so

also check out some other reviewers now

if you're in a market for a sports or

health tracker and your budget isn't as

high I would personally maybe buy an

older generation Fitbit or a w hway band

both of these are much better Sports and

or health trackers and check out these

videos up here now these are just two

examples of health and sports trackers

that are better value for money in my

personal opinion if you're mostly

interested in sleep tracking and sleep

stage tracking check out this video

right here for my top recommendations or

if you're more into heart rate tracking

check out this video right here if

you're interested in anything else also

check out my other videos down here

thank you so much for watching and catch

you in the next video