Russell Peters on 'cancel culture,' political correctness and comedy | W5 Extended

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25 Mar 202306:49

Summary

TLDRIn this candid discussion, a comedian reflects on his 33-year career, his Canadian upbringing, and the shift from modest goals to striving for more. He shares insights on modern sensitivities, cancel culture, and free speech, particularly in comedy, emphasizing that people today lack coping mechanisms for adversity. The comedian criticizes the tendency to get easily offended, stating that offense doesn't always equate to being right. He praises Dave Chappelle's controversial stand-up for addressing topics others fear, while advocating for humor as a means to tackle serious issues without stifling free speech.

Takeaways

  • 😀 The speaker never expected to be as successful as they are today, growing up with a Canadian mindset focused on meeting basic needs.
  • 🌟 Over time, they realized there was potential to achieve more and began focusing on standing out rather than blending in.
  • 👶 Their current focus is influenced by being a 52-year-old with four children, ranging from ages 3.5 to 30, which presents new challenges and concerns about the future.
  • 🌍 They acknowledge that the sensitivities of younger generations are a result of the older generation, particularly in creating political correctness.
  • 🤐 The speaker avoids sharing certain content on social media to avoid negative reactions from people who don’t understand their work.
  • 😂 They believe that being offended doesn’t necessarily make someone right, and people need to develop better coping mechanisms for adversity.
  • 🎭 Many comedians, including the speaker, avoid performing at universities due to restrictions on free speech and fear of offending sensitive audiences.
  • 🛑 The speaker feels cancel culture doesn’t affect them, as those wanting to cancel them weren’t their audience to begin with.
  • 🤔 They enjoy pushing the boundaries in their comedy but know how to toe the line without crossing into truly offensive territory.
  • 🎤 The speaker is friends with Dave Chappelle and praised his ability to address sensitive topics in comedy, despite public criticism.

Q & A

  • What was the interviewee's mindset when they started their career 33 years ago?

    -The interviewee had a Canadian mindset, which focused on just getting enough to meet their needs. Over time, they realized the possibility of achieving more and started focusing on standing out rather than blending in.

  • How has the interviewee's life changed in the past four years, and how has that impacted their perspective?

    -The interviewee now has four children, with two biological and two stepchildren, aged 30, 28, 12, and 3.5 years. This shift has made them more concerned about the future and the sensitivities of younger generations.

  • How does the interviewee feel about the sensitivities of the younger generation?

    -The interviewee believes that the younger generation lacks coping mechanisms and that their sensitivities are a result of the previous generation, which introduced political correctness.

  • Why does the interviewee hesitate to post clips on social media?

    -The interviewee hesitates to post clips because they don’t want to deal with criticism from people who don’t understand their humor, especially younger individuals acting as 'social warriors.'

  • What is the interviewee's stance on offense and humor?

    -The interviewee believes that just because someone is offended doesn't mean they are right. If something bothers an individual, it's their problem, not the world's, and people need to learn to cope with adversity.

  • Why do comedians, including the interviewee, avoid performing at university campuses?

    -Comedians avoid university campuses because they believe that the environment has become overly sensitive and restrictive, particularly with free speech, making it difficult for them to perform their material.

  • What is the interviewee's opinion on cancel culture?

    -The interviewee thinks cancel culture is ineffective in impacting their career, as the people trying to cancel them were never going to support them in the first place. They focus on performing for their existing audience rather than bowing to cancel culture.

  • How does the interviewee describe their approach to pushing boundaries in their performances?

    -The interviewee enjoys toeing the line, making the audience think they might go too far before pulling back. Their goal is to make people laugh and feel a little uncomfortable without being malicious.

  • What does the interviewee think about Dave Chappelle's controversial statements on 'Saturday Night Live'?

    -The interviewee supports Chappelle, believing that he articulated what many people are afraid to say. They don’t think his comments crossed the line, arguing that acknowledging certain realities (like the presence of Jews in Hollywood) isn’t inherently negative.

  • What is the interviewee's overall view on humor and people's ability to laugh at themselves?

    -The interviewee believes that society's increasing inability to laugh at itself leads to a bleak future. They think that humor, even dark humor, is essential and that people need to be less serious and more open to laughter.

Outlines

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🤔 Reflecting on Success and Ambition Over Time

The speaker reminisces about starting their career 33 years ago, initially driven by a modest Canadian mindset of just achieving what was necessary. However, as they progressed, they realized the potential for more success and sought to stand out rather than blend in. Even today, they focus on elevating their craft and life, particularly as a 52-year-old man navigating the challenges of having four children ranging from ages 30 to 3.5. The speaker notes the generational sensitivities created by their own generation, reflecting on political correctness and its unintended consequences.

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🙉 The Challenges of Criticism and Social Media

The speaker expresses frustration with social media, specifically avoiding posting certain clips to avoid backlash from those who don’t understand their intent. They criticize younger generations for their hypersensitivity and lack of coping mechanisms, contrasting this with their own generation’s influence on creating political correctness. They also discuss the limitations this sensitivity places on comedy, especially on university campuses, where comics no longer perform due to constraints on free speech.

⚖️ Crossing the Line: Offense vs. Humor

In this segment, the speaker tackles the issue of crossing the line between being funny and offensive. They assert that just because someone is offended, it doesn’t mean they are right, emphasizing that personal offense is an individual’s problem, not society’s. The speaker critiques how the new generation lacks the resilience to handle adversity and humor, lamenting the negative impact on free speech and comedy performances. They reference Chris Rock's refusal to perform on university campuses as an example of how political correctness stifles creativity.

🚫 Cancel Culture and Comedy

The speaker delves into cancel culture and its impact on comedy, explaining that attempts to 'cancel' them wouldn’t affect their audience because those individuals were never fans in the first place. They argue that bowing to cancel culture would alienate their base, making them lose their authentic voice. The speaker mentions their deliberate approach to humor, often teasing the audience into thinking they’ll cross a line but pulling back just before doing so. They emphasize the importance of playing to the people who appreciate their style.

🎭 Navigating Offensive Humor and Friendships in Comedy

The speaker shares insights about their friendship with Dave Chappelle and defends Chappelle’s controversial SNL appearance, particularly regarding accusations of legitimizing anti-Semitism. The speaker appreciates Chappelle’s ability to articulate sensitive topics that others are afraid to address, noting that these conversations are valid despite attempts to shut them down. They emphasize that being funny should not be restricted by sensitivities, much like how individuals can avoid content they don’t enjoy, such as horror movies.

😂 Comedy, Dark Humor, and the Future of Laughter

In this final section, the speaker discusses the bleak future that could arise if people continue to take themselves too seriously, losing the ability to laugh at their own flaws. They emphasize that comics have a dark sense of humor and often exchange jokes privately about tragic events. These jokes, though never public, reflect the coping mechanisms within the comedic community. The speaker fears that society’s growing seriousness could threaten the freedom of comedy and the lightheartedness essential to its craft.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Canadian mindset

The 'Canadian mindset' refers to a mentality centered on modesty and being content with having just enough to meet basic needs. In the video, this is discussed in relation to how the speaker initially viewed success, aiming for sufficiency rather than abundance, but later shifted focus toward ambition and growth.

💡Cancel culture

Cancel culture is a phenomenon where individuals or groups are ostracized or 'canceled' due to their statements or actions being deemed offensive. The speaker criticizes this practice, arguing that it stifles free speech and prevents society from learning from history. The concept is central to the discussion of humor and social sensitivity.

💡Political correctness

Political correctness refers to avoiding language or behavior that could offend certain groups, often in the context of race, gender, or religion. The speaker reflects on how his generation contributed to the rise of political correctness, which he believes has led to today's hypersensitivity, particularly among younger people.

💡Offense vs. right

This concept touches on the idea that being offended does not necessarily make one correct. The speaker points out that while many things may be offensive, it is up to the individual to manage their reaction rather than expecting the world to change. This notion is central to the debate on free speech and humor in the video.

💡Free speech

Free speech is the right to express one's opinions without censorship or restraint. The speaker is concerned that current social norms, including cancel culture and political correctness, are threatening this fundamental right, especially in comedy, where the ability to push boundaries and make controversial statements is essential.

💡Coping mechanisms

Coping mechanisms are the strategies individuals use to deal with stress or adversity. The speaker laments that younger generations have not developed strong coping mechanisms, leading them to be easily offended and unable to handle challenges, which he views as a negative consequence of societal overprotection.

💡Stand out

To 'stand out' means to distinguish oneself from others. The speaker discusses his desire to rise above mediocrity and not merely 'blend in,' highlighting his ambition to achieve more in his career and make a unique impact. This aspiration is central to his personal growth narrative.

💡Comedy and sensitivity

This concept refers to the tension between humor and social sensitivity. The speaker argues that comedy often involves pushing boundaries, and that today's social environment, with its heightened sensitivities, makes it difficult for comedians to perform without facing backlash. He asserts that humor should challenge audiences, not cater to their sensitivities.

💡Generational responsibility

The idea of generational responsibility refers to the notion that the older generation has shaped the attitudes and behaviors of the younger generation. The speaker acknowledges that his generation played a role in fostering political correctness, which he believes has contributed to the current climate of hypersensitivity.

💡Comedic boundaries

Comedic boundaries refer to the limits comedians may or may not cross in their material. The speaker explains that while he enjoys making audiences uncomfortable or 'squirm,' he knows how to 'toe the line' without crossing into truly offensive territory, using humor to provoke thought rather than outright shock.

Highlights

The speaker reflects on the mindset of 'getting enough' versus 'wanting to stand out' as they progressed in their career.

The speaker discusses their experience of having children at different ages and the challenges of raising them with different needs and sensitivities.

The speaker talks about generational differences in sensitivities and how their generation contributed to the rise of political correctness.

The speaker expresses concerns about the lack of coping mechanisms in the younger generation and the impact this has on society.

The speaker emphasizes that being offended does not necessarily mean being right and that it is the individual's responsibility to deal with their own feelings.

The speaker addresses the issue of free speech and how comedians are increasingly avoiding university campuses due to restrictive environments.

The speaker argues that cancel culture is ineffective because those who seek to 'cancel' were never their target audience anyway.

The speaker explains their approach to comedy, aiming to challenge perceptions without crossing into offensive territory.

The speaker reflects on the importance of catering to their existing audience rather than changing to appease potential critics.

The speaker shares insights on maintaining authenticity in comedy, emphasizing the need to balance sensitivity with humor.

The speaker expresses support for fellow comedian Dave Chappelle, appreciating his willingness to address controversial topics.

The speaker defends Chappelle's remarks, suggesting that difficult conversations are necessary and should not be shut down.

The speaker criticizes the misuse of power by some minority groups, advocating for open dialogue rather than censorship.

The speaker suggests that people should simply avoid content they find offensive, rather than trying to silence it.

The speaker emphasizes the role of humor in coping with difficult situations and the camaraderie among comedians in sharing dark humor privately.

Transcripts

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did you ever think when you were

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starting out

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33 years ago that you'd be where you are

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today no not on any day

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I was um

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you know you grew up with a Canadian

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mindset the Canadian mindset is uh if I

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could just get enough to have what I

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need I'm good

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but as I started doing it I was like

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wait there's a possibility to do more

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than what I'm doing or get more than I'm

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getting and I started focusing on that

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more and I was like you know what I

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really want to take this to another

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level I don't just want to blend in

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I want to stand out

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and uh that's what I focused on doing I

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I still do that to my to this day

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what's your material now what's your

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focus on now I'm dealing with more with

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uh with where I'm at in life you know

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I'm 52 year old man four years ago I had

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one child now I have four you know one

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two I made and two my wife made you know

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so I'm dealing with a different range of

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kids 30 28 12 and three and a half you

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know so I've got this whole this is a

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different world I'm dealing with now and

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I'm and I'm con you know I'm I I'm

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focused on being concerned about the

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future

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uh and and and the sensitivities and I'm

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you know that we complain about the

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sensitivities of of the young people

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nowadays but you know when you become

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introspective you start to realize that

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their sensitivities

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are because of our generation My

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Generation caused that that

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My Generation created political

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correctness right so so this was our

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little our little attempt and then it

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blew up in our face

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I put Clips on my Instagram

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and a lot of times I don't put the clips

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on because I'm like I don't want to hear

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from people that don't know that don't

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understand what I'm doing you know I

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want these I don't want these

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Knuckleheads to get on them like oh you

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know that's not you know so you got

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these these young people that are trying

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to be these social Warriors and you're

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like get the out of my face with

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your

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okay is there a point where you can

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cross the line into being offensive as

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opposed to making fun of someone who

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gets it and doesn't mind the fact that

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you're you're poking fun at them

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um I have this line in my ACT I said

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just because you're offended doesn't

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mean you're right

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there's plenty of things that offend me

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on a daily basis but doesn't mean I'm

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right and it doesn't mean that it's at

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somebody else's problem if something

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bothers you that becomes your problem it

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shouldn't become the world's problem and

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it shouldn't become the like it it's for

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you to deal with and the problem is we

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have a new generation of kids that have

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no coping mechanisms

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they don't know how to cope with any

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adversity

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but then didn't Chris Rock say he

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doesn't like going to University

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campuses none of us do yeah no comic

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will do it anymore

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because we don't we're not going to play

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by their rules you're you're ruining

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free speech that's why when they're

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trying to cancel the past you can't

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cancel the past you can't erase history

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all you can do is learn from it because

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if you cancel it and you erase it it's

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going to repeat itself well Archie

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Bunker really pushed the envelope right

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yeah but we all knew

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nobody was like this is terrible we all

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knew people like that the problem is

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people people hate mirrors

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nobody wants to look at themselves you

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look at yourself you go what the is

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that and people hate to be reminded that

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that's who they are

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so the whole idea of cancel culture that

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hasn't affected anything you're doing

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the people that want to would be

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interested in canceling me we're never

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going to buy a ticket to see me

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so and the people that do buy tickets

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come and see me want to hear what I do

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now if I'm going to bow down to these

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invisible people of cancel culture I'm

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gonna lose my base and I'm not going to

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gain them so what is the what's the end

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game here who am I playing this guy I

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gotta I got to service the people that

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want to hear what I have to say you know

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I know what I can and cannot say

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oh yeah and I don't say the things that

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I like to toe the line okay I like to

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make you think I'm gonna do go there and

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I go just go there and I turn right

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around just you know it's like throwing

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fake punches at somebody you're not

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gonna hit them so you've got a a little

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person inside your head who censors you

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just yeah but I mean at the same time

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I'm not devious in my mind you know I'm

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not trying to my goal is to make you

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laugh my goal is to make you squirm a

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little

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oh did he oh no he didn't thank goodness

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and I'm like or did I you know that's

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really I want to leave it up to that you

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know

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are you friends with Dave Chappelle I am

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I've been I've known Dave for 27 years

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okay and you saw his schnick on SNL yeah

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it was fantastic okay interesting you

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should say that because a whole group

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out there say he's legitimized he's made

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anti-semitism

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legitimate

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what do you say to that I mean I sent

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him a text after it happened I said Dave

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on behalf of all the comics we all quit

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you nailed it

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because because he articulated exactly

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what people are afraid to say and why

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should we be afraid to say something

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that I mean listen like to say the Jews

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were in Hollywood isn't a bad thing it's

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not like they run it in there and

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they're looking it up I mean I wouldn't

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want anybody else to run it

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clearly they're doing a fantastic job

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why would I take this away from them I

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want I get mad if I look at my team my

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at my agency and I go why do I not have

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enough Jewish guys or women on this team

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why why I need more if I had more I'd

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probably be doing better right now okay

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and then his comments on the trans

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community and Ricky Gervais comments as

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well do you think they cross the line no

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what did he say that was so bad Dave

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will you tell me why do you think

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there's such a fuss over what he's

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because we got we got a minority here

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with way too much wielding a lot of

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power

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and and not afraid to use it

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and just because you try to shut

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somebody up doesn't mean what they're

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saying isn't valid

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people really got to get out of their

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head out of their ass and it's one of

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those things where it's like listen

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funny is funny

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if you're soft don't look at it

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if it's not listen I don't like horror

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movies I don't watch them yeah it's

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pretty simple it's really a basic

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thought process it's as simple as that

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horror movies don't scare me they bother

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me

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you know what I do I don't watch them

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but do you think that we're living in an

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environment now where people aren't able

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to laugh at themselves as much as they

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used to well then that's not my problem

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that that then we're looking very at a

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very Bleak future

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the the more serious people get the

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worse the future looks

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I'm all about what's funny you know in

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comics we have a dark sense of humor

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yeah it doesn't matter

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like as soon as a bad thing happens we

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immediately have jokes written about it

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we'll never do them in public but we'll

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text each other if you were ever in a

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comedian's chat room you'd be like wow

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this is dark and this now that's

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cancelable yeah like we're all like man

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have anybody ever saw what we say to

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each other we would be done

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