Col. Douglas Macgregor: Is WWIII Around the Corner?
Summary
TLDRIn this episode of 'Judging Freedom', Judge Andrew Napolitano and Colonel Douglas McGregor discuss the complex situation in Israel and Gaza, focusing on Prime Minister Netanyahu's stated goals of eradicating Hamas and returning hostages. McGregor expresses skepticism about achieving these goals and critiques the broader Israeli strategy, which he perceives as aiming for a greater Israel free of Palestinians. The dialogue touches on the Israeli public's support, potential real goals behind Netanyahu's policies, and the international response. McGregor warns of the consequences of the current trajectory, including potential regional war and the implications for U.S. foreign policy and military presence in the Middle East.
Takeaways
- 😟 Netanyahu's stated goal of eradicating Hamas in Gaza seems unlikely given Israel's focus on expelling or killing the population there
- 😡 Israel aims to control all territory from the River to the Sea, removing Palestinians entirely
- 😠 The Israeli public overwhelmingly supports the expulsion and removal of Arabs from Gaza and the West Bank
- 🤨 U.S. politicians benefit from pro-Israel lobbying money and largely support Israel's actions in Gaza
- 😔 Without public opposition, the U.S. will continue enabling Israel's actions against Palestinians
- 😩 Regional Arab populations are ready to fight Israel regardless of costs to destroy it
- 😰 War between Israel and regional actors seems inevitable at this point
- 😨 Iran has extensive capabilities to precisely strike U.S. bases and ships in the region
- 😱 Israel, the U.S., and allies seem unprepared for the full-scale regional war they are provoking
- 😫 U.S. withdrawal seems the only way to avoid catastrophic escalation toward nuclear conflict
Q & A
What are Israel's publicly stated goals according to Prime Minister Netanyahu?
-Netanyahu has publicly stated goals of eradicating Hamas and returning hostages held by Hamas.
What does Colonel McGregor believe is the real goal of Israel's military campaign?
-McGregor believes Israel's real goal is to remove the Arab population from Gaza, the West Bank, and establish control over all the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.
What indication is there that the Israeli public supports Netanyahu's goals?
-Polls show the Israeli public overwhelmingly supports Netanyahu's goals, with 100% behind expelling or killing the Arab population to establish control over greater Israel.
Why does Colonel McGregor believe Netanyahu made a mistake in stating Israel's goals?
-McGregor believes stating the goal as an existential issue for Israel's survival closed the door on potential compromise solutions and made the conflict an all or nothing proposition.
How could the U.S. potentially influence Israel's actions?
-The U.S. provides enormous financial and political support to Israel. By threatening to withdraw that support, the U.S. could potentially influence Israel to halt or modify its military campaign.
What danger does the current situation pose for a wider regional war?
-Public anger against Israel is rising across the Middle East, pushing governments toward confrontation even though they wish to avoid war. This moves the region to the precipice of a conflict that could culminate in Israel's destruction.
Why are U.S. forces being attacked in the region?
-Because the U.S. provides unconditional support for Israel's actions, U.S. forces are seen as legitimate targets by Arab militias wishing to oppose Israel's campaign against Palestinians.
What capabilities does Iran have to retaliate against a U.S. or Israeli attack?
-Iran has a large arsenal of precise, long-range missiles that could be used to devastating effect against U.S. bases, Israel, and shipping in the region. This includes hypersonic missiles against which there is no defense.
How could the conflict impact the U.S. homeland?
-Hezbollah and other militant groups have presence in Mexico, threatening a second front along the U.S.-Mexico border. Terror attacks inside the U.S. are also a possibility.
What are the risks of a wider war involving Russia?
-Russia sees Iran as a key strategic partner and would likely come to its defense in the event of a U.S. or Israeli attack. This raises the risk of turning a regional conflict into a global one.
Outlines
🎤 Opening remarks and question on Israel's goals in Gaza
Judge Napolitano welcomes Colonel McGregor and asks him if he sees any path for Israel to achieve its stated goals of eradicating Hamas and returning hostages. McGregor says no, he doesn't see that happening because Israel's campaign has focused on expelling or killing Gaza's population, which Israel assumes deserves it for supporting Hamas.
🗺️ Discussion of Netanyahu's vision for Israeli control and sovereignty
McGregor and Napolitano discuss leaked clips showing Netanyahu's cabinet members demanding control "from the river to the sea" and Netanyahu himself stating that Israel needs sovereignty across that territory for its security. McGregor says this makes clear Netanyahu's vision is the removal of all Arabs from that land.
🌍 U.S. government lying about supporting two-state solution?
Napolitano notes the U.S. government claims to support a two-state solution despite the Israeli government clearly having no interest in it. McGregor agrees the U.S. knows a two-state solution is unacceptable to Israel now and says the conflict has become an "all or nothing proposition" where all Arabs must go or remain as a threat.
😡 McGregor argues attacking Iran over U.S. casualties would be wrong
Three U.S. soldiers were killed in Syria, possibly spurring escalation against Iran. McGregor argues Arab militias, not Iran, ordered the attack over U.S. support for Israel in Gaza. He says Iran does not want war with the U.S. and that stopping support for Israel's actions in Gaza would end attacks.
😨 Warning that attacking Iran risks triggering massive conflict
McGregor warns that attacking Iran, as some U.S. leaders suggest, would prompt devastating retaliation given Iran's large and precise missile arsenal. This could spread into a massive regional war culminating in Israel's destruction, which he thinks cannot be stopped due to growing Muslim rage.
😰 Advice to remove U.S. troops, brace for attacks from Mexico
Asked for advice to Biden, McGregor advocates immediately removing U.S. troops from the Mideast. He warns of likely attacks from Hezbollah forces and allies in Mexico and says no one has tracked Islamists entering the U.S., warning of attacks on infrastructure and nuclear plants.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Israel
💡Gaza
💡Hamas
💡genocide
💡Iran
💡Hezbollah
💡missiles
💡war
💡Russia
💡Mexico
Highlights
Netanyahu's publicly stated goals of eradicating Hamas and returning hostages seem different from his likely real goal of removing all Arabs from Gaza and the West Bank.
The Israeli public overwhelmingly supports Netanyahu's goal of expelling or killing the Arab population to ensure Israel's security and survival.
Netanyahu equates expelling all Arabs to Israel's long-term security, framing it as an existential issue for Israel's survival.
The U.S. government mostly supports Israel's actions against Arabs due to the influence of pro-Israel lobbying and money in politics.
The only way to stop Israel's actions is for the American people to pressure their representatives, as the government won't oppose Israel.
The Biden administration knows a two-state solution is unacceptable to Israel, so their rhetoric seems dishonest.
Arab populations across the Middle East are ready to fight Israel regardless of costs, seeing it as an existential battle.
Events are moving towards a regional war that could culminate in Israel's destruction, likely unavoidable now.
Any U.S. attack on Iran would probably prompt retaliation attacking Israel, devastating Israeli cities.
Iran has precise missiles and drones that could flatten U.S. bases and cities, as well as hit ships, if provoked into war.
Hezbollah likely has military equipment in Mexico and could open up a dangerous second front along the U.S. border.
If the U.S. aids Israel in war with Iran, Russia will likely assist Iran militarily as a strategic partner.
China would not stand by if Iran's access to food imports and Persian Gulf ports were threatened.
Attacking Iran risks nuclear retaliation by Israel if its cities are destroyed, with catastrophic global consequences.
The U.S. should withdraw all troops from Iraq and Syria as they serve no purpose and provoke attacks.
Transcripts
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hi everyone Judge Andrew napalitano here
for judging Freedom today is Monday
January 29th 2024 Colonel Douglas
McGregor joins us now uh Colonel
McGregor thank you very much for uh your
time and your Insight do do you see any
path in Israel uh for the achievement of
the state publicly stated goals of prime
minister
Netanyahu of Iraq eradicating Hamas and
returning the
hostages H not at the moment no I I
can't conceive of it because while he's
made these statements publicly you have
to go back and look at what's happened
since 7
October and since 7 October the campaign
has focused on expelling or killing the
population in Gaza I think the
assumption is that whomever you kill in
Gaza richly deserves it if they happen
to be members of Hamas that's fine if
they're living there they must be
supportive of Hamas so I think that's a
secondary concern and as far as the
hostages go I I don't see any any acute
sensitivity to that issue right now it's
drive out the Arabs and not just in Gaza
I think there's also an effort to do
something very similar on the West
Bank um I emphasized in my question and
I think you understood it that way Prim
Minister netanyahu's publicly stated
goals but might his real goal be uh what
he wants inadvertently or directly
articulated to the UN which is that
Israel consists of all the land from The
River To The Sea yes he he's briefed
that to to the United Nations he
supplied a map and everybody looked at
it and wondered where the Palestinians
were they were gone so that that's
abundantly clear he's also made those
comments in Hebrew so I think people
need to understand this secondly need to
understand the Israeli population is
behind it they they don't question this
at all they're 100% behind it here's a a
clip from Al
jazer uh but it's uh the two uh what
we've been calling extremist members of
his main cabinet and his War cabin at
Ben gavier and
smotrich making demands of him in public
and before large crowds I don't we don't
know what they say to him in private and
maybe he agrees with this uh but here
they are in front of crowds making
demands of prime minister
Netanyahu Mr Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu I'm addressing you from this
stage it's a shame to wait another 19
years to understand that gush and
Northern Samaria must be returned the
responsibility of Brave leadership is to
make
decisions we are settling our land from
width to length controlling it and
fighting Terror always and bringing with
God's help security to all of Israel you
know what the answer is without
settlement there is no
security to length and I I think we have
what you and I discussed before we went
on air I believe we have prime minister
uh Netanyahu on this for 30 years I am
very consistent and I'm saying something
very simple this conflict is not on the
lack of a state of Palestinian but the
existence of the state the Jewish state
every area that we evacuate we receive
Terrible Terror against that it happened
in South Lebanon in Gaza and also Judea
and Samaria which we did it and
therefore I clarify that in other
Arrangement any other
arrangement in the future the state of
Israel have to control on the entire
area from The River To The Sea this is
what happens when you have sovereignty
this truth I say to our American friends
and I also stopped the attempt to impose
us a reality that will jeopardize us a
prime minister in Israel has to be able
to say no even to the best of friends to
say no when you need to and to say yes
when you
can guess he has more courage than
President Biden does he can say no to
Joe Biden but Joe Biden can't say no to
him but it's obvious what he was talking
about first he said control from The
River To The Sea which of course they
don't have but they're fighting to have
then he said sovereignty from the river
to the sea is there any question in your
mind what he was talking about no not at
all remember he and frankly most
Israelis equate the the final removal of
all the Arabs that currently live in
what they regard as greater Israel this
is the sea to the Jordan River as
equating to their long-term security and
survival remember he said for us this is
existential either all of these people
have got to go and we control everything
or uh we're finished he's making the
argument that Israel will not survive
unless it executes this operation I
think we have to take him seriously I I
think the Israelis believe it the
question is not what the Israelis want
or what they believe but what do the
American people want and how do they
feel are they comfortable with the
wholesale removal of the Arab population
Muslim and Christian from Gaza it's its
death or expulsion or or its killing
directly or indirectly through disease
and starvation or not if they're not
comfortable with that they need to get
off their rear ends and call their
representatives in Washington because no
one in Washington is opposed I shouldn't
say no one I'm sure there are a few
people but there are so few paying any
attention to it I think it's it's really
irrelevant well Washington must know
what was stated in the clips uh that we
just ran Washington must know that there
is zero impetus for a two-state solution
in the uh Netanyahu government and as
you indicated among the uh Israeli
population by an enormous uh percentage
so should we take
seriously uh or are they uh lying to us
when Joe Biden and Tony blinkin say
two-state solution two-state
solution no I think they know that
that's utterly unacceptable to the
Israelis at this point if there was a
chance for that it died some time ago so
it's an all or nothing proposition
either all of the Arabs go or they don't
and in the minds of Israelis if they're
not removed there is a permanent threat
to their existence and they cannot
tolerate that the intern the
international court of justice which did
not order a ceasefire it has no ability
to to to enforce its order which did not
find as a matter of fact and law that
Israel is engaged in genocide
nevertheless told Israel not to engage
and genocide and to report back to it uh
in 30 days the latter was by 16 to one
which included the justice that was sent
from
Israel as you know South Africa got to
add a Justice to the court it's very
unique that they can do that and Israel
got to add a Justice to the court that
vote was 16 to1 the other vote was 15-2
did the icj ruling burst the bubble of
Israel moral rectitude or had that
bubble been burst by the IDF in
Gaza outside of the United States and
Israel and the United Kingdom probably
Australia New Zealand I'd say it has
bursted but as far as we're concerned
it's irrelevant the international court
of justice is irrelevant to us we're not
signatories we don't respect it we have
no use for it uh we don't care and
remember the entire government on
Capital Hill is with very few exceptions
is comfortable with what the Israelis
are doing that's my point the only way
to put a stop to this is for the
American people to raise their voices
and say we don't want to be party to
this operation it is inconsistent with
our views of what is morally right or
wrong but it hasn't happened no no there
there's somewhat of a movement in
Michigan which has a probably the
largest uh Palestinian or Arab uh
population base of any State uh in the
union but it doesn't seem to have uh
motivated the president at all by the
way know we should note that Americans I
think if they were asked are equally
opposed to the goals of Hamas and other
like-minded organizations that want to
rid the Middle East of Jews we don't
support that we would not stand by and
allow that to happen uh I don't think we
should stand by do nothing and allow
this to happen I would simply urge the
president to stop lying to the American
people along with all of his colleagues
all of whom have benefited enormously
from the money poured into their
organizations from the lobby and and
Israel's agents in the United States and
simply say if you're going to persist in
this you're going to have to do it alone
we're not going to underwrite it we're
not going to support it I mean I'm
certainly not advocating that we should
commit forces to stop it I don't believe
in that I I didn't support that in the
past I don't support it now but we
should simply say that's completely
inconsistent with our views of what is
morally right and wrong and as the
president I'm telling you right now if
you persist we will withdraw our
support there is no clear path for the
release of the hostages without a
substantial ceasefire and there is no
willingness on the part of the Netanyahu
government for a ceasefire the ice CJ
which is part of the United Nations has
said stop the genocide uh and report
back is there uh any fear on the part of
Washington that its Senior People Biden
blinkin Austin are supporting
genocide well first of all the word
genocide was not used as far as I can
tell in the final Judgment of the
international criminal court or court of
justice which I think is one of the
reasons that the the findings were 16
to1 if the word genocide had been
included there would have been sub more
numbers of Judges who would have
descended from the ultimate decision so
I you know we use we I I have never used
the word
genocide genocide to me is H on a much
larger scale now that doesn't mean that
it will not be achieved in Gaza I think
that's a very real possibility for that
matter on the West Bank but at this
point uh I think Israel managed to skate
if you will in front of the
international court of justice and most
Americans have paid little or no
attention Americans are currently
focused on the southern border what's
happening down there I think in that
sense Americans are finally beginning to
wake up to something that I and others
have been talking about for years that's
a good thing but they're not too
terribly concerned about the Israelis
and what they do until of course we are
drawn into war in the region that's
another matter entirely and we're very
close to that we'll get to that in just
a moment is Israel no longer feared by
other Middle Eastern State actors I I
think that uh the Middle East its Elites
certainly the governments of uh Egypt
Jordan uh Syria Saudi Arabia the
Emirates uh Lebanon no doubt they all
want to avoid a regional War they want
to avoid it because they know what the
damage will be to their infrastructure
they know the consequences for their
populations and I think they fear their
removal but the point is that events are
moving to that precipice of removing
them as it is the populations in the
region the Muslim Arabs in particular
and the Turks I would say are very close
to it are so angry and so enraged
they're ready to fight regardless of
what the costs are to destroy Israel I
think this is something everybody misses
uh Mr Netanyahu in my judgment was wrong
when he said destroying Hamas and
removing the population in Gaza was an
existential requirement for the state of
Israel I don't think it was I think he
could have scaled back his objectives
and achieved a degree of security that
that could have been infinitely better
than what already exists there were
things that could be done that's gone
now he's he's given the final answer
it's his way or the highway as a result
increasingly across the Middle East
everyone who is in a power in power
Authority is privately saying syes Pico
is over in other words we will no longer
tolerate this Israeli State and they are
moving towards a state of War across the
region which will culminate I think in
the destruction of Israel I don't think
we can stop
it what is the uh
significance uh or what will be the
significance of the American response to
the deaths of uh three soldiers and the
injury of
34 uh at some Outpost uh in the middle
of nowhere uh at the Jordan Syrian
border the the deaths of these soldiers
and I think some of them may be from the
California National Guard I've been
trying to find out by the way uh will be
potentially used as a justification for
further escalation against Iran as we
know the the desire to wage war in Iran
has been going on for two decades we
forget the how
much support and sustainment and
equipment and training we pumped into
Saddam Hussein's regime in his war
against Iran that killed hundreds of
thousands of Iranians and at the time we
applauded we thought it was wonderful
Henry Kissinger thought the war was
great because it was killing large
numbers not only of Iranians but also
Arabs uh that cynicism has not been
forgotten the notion that the hostility
we are dealing with today simply began
last week is wrong but we need to
understand that Iran is telling the
truth when it says it did not order
explicitly these Iraqi resistance
organizations or Shiite milit militias
to attack us they did not the
intelligence committee has already
stated that we have to understand that
these are Arab militias the Arab Arabs
in y in the hoodis the Arabs in southern
Lebanon Hezbollah the Arabs in Iraq and
Syria they are all anti-israeli why are
they attacking us because we are
unconditionally supporting the
destruction of the Arab population in
Gaza if that were to Halt or at least we
were to do what I just stated earlier
essentially say we're not going to be a
party to this the attacks on us would
end this is there is no desire on the
part of Iran or anyone else in the
region to go to war with us we however
have been Desperately Seeking this
opportunity looking for an excuse is
this enough I don't know you have to
look at American opinion polls and
remember we always have what about a
third of the electorate that cheers
regardless of whom we bomb I mean if we
bombed Panama tomorrow morning a third
of the electorate would stand up and say
oh it's wonderful I'm it's great right
Americans have no fear of War because it
always happens on someone else's soil
and that is about to change if we attack
Iran Senator Graham has said we should
bomb Tron no surprise that he would say
it as absurd as it is but if we do
anything like that what will Iran do
attack
Israel I I think we will pay a heavy
price Iran has an enormous arsenal of
missiles I urge everyone to go online
it's very easy to find out and look at
this enormous tinal thousands of very
precise very destructive theater
ballistic missiles as well as tactical
ballistic missiles they have cruise
missile technology infinite numbers of
drones now what was fired I think was a
crude tactical ballistic missile by
these Shiite Arabs they've been given
older technology and allowed to have
that but the Iranians have not provided
them with their top-of-the-line
equipment
if those are employed not only are they
in a position to attack with great
Precision all of our positions in the
region remember we have about
57,000 Americans in uniform in the
region uh almost 30,000 or perhaps a
little more are in uh bases that are
sitting yes that's an excellent
demonstration of what what exists go to
the right and work your way down the
ones to the right are what I would call
blockbusters
these These are missiles that would
flatten cities flatten military
installations destroy airfields Harbors
there're all conventional Warheads but
the destructive power is enormous and
it's
precise if if the Iranians shooted
something they hit it they just
demonstrated that a couple of weeks ago
when they struck Targets in Syria and
Iraq and list listen they could have
done infinitely more damage I think they
were all in Syria but they could have
done much more damage they chose not to
when you destroy a mad position with a
Kurdish man and his family who are mad
agents and that is in close proximity to
the United States Embassy you demolish
the house kill everybody in it but you
do no damage to anything that is
American or American Personnel that
should tell everyone they have
extraordinary technology that can be
used against us all over the region they
have Hypersonic missiles now these are
Chinese manufacturer but they are of a
Russian invention originally and these
Hypersonic missiles are in a position to
strike targets at Sea and there's no way
to shoot them down or defend against
them you have a British aircraft carrier
an American aircraft carrier in the Red
Sea uh or the Indian Ocean they can be
targeted because everyone now has access
to overhead surveillance overhead
surveillance with the kind of uh ability
to read the names on
gravestones that did not exist in those
countries 20 years ago so their
targeting is very precise and ships at
Sea regardless of whether they're
nuclear or conventionally powered are
slow these are slow moving targets
anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy and
and the point is that these Hypersonic
missiles can adjust so if they fire
these things they will hit their targets
they then and you mentioned is is if the
Israelis are participating with us in
direct strikes on Iran then I think the
the Arsenal will be launched in great
quantities from numerous different
locations all of which we cannot be
positively identified and they will
reduce most of Israel to ashes as we
speak literally as we speak Republican
and Democratic members of Congress are
calling the White House and saying
attack attack attack we have to look
strong
what would you advise the president to
do would you say take those 57,000
troops and bring them home immediately
oh yes in fact that's what Donald Trump
wanted to do in November of 2020 of
course he had tried earlier he failed
because he didn't understand that simply
giving an order meant nothing in
Washington in the federal bureaucracy
you have to follow up you have to hold
the Military Officers and the diplomats
accountable who systematically avoid
executing your order he wanted our
forces out of Syria he wanted them out
of Iraq and he had good reason for that
because these little Penny packets of
forces are easy
targets again it's back to something we
we just don't say enough we have been
facing opponents without armies Air
Forces air
defenses that is about to end Iran
turkey certainly Hezbollah these are
real forces with real capability we
haven't had to face that by the way
neither have the Israelis and the
Israelis would be the first to tell you
privately that too many of their
soldiers and officers have spent too
much policing policing people on the
West Bank and around Gaza they're not
accustomed to a full-up allout war and
that's what they're asking for and
they'll get it if they don't stop and we
are going to get it and remember hisbah
has substantial facilities
and concentrations of people in
Mexico so do islamists who are Sunni
Muslims in Mexico we don't even know who
has actually entered the United States I
mean no one seemed to care when
thousands of uh military age men from
China and other countries entered the
United States nobody seems to have
gotten very exercised until quite
recently when they realized that Arabs
and Iranians and others and melees and
other Muslims from different parts of
the country had also entered suddenly
people are beginning to realize it well
what about our nuclear power facilities
what about our power grid what about the
weapons that exist that are in the hands
of the cartels now the cartels want to
continue to infect us and destroy us
with drugs because that's where they
make their money but organized crime
frequently cooperates for enough money
with other entities State and non-state
actors who have an interest in harming
us we should not write off the very high
probability that if this war goes
forward we will face a second front
along the Mexican border and potentially
a third front inside the United States
does Hezbollah and Mexico have the
military equipment that Hezbollah and
Lebanon
has uh I first of all that's classified
I'm sure people that that are operating
in the intelligence committees can give
you a better answer all I can tell you
is that certainly in terms of
surveillance equipment Small Arms uh
RPGs and uh some air shoulder fired air
defense missiles they are extremely well
equipped so are the cartels and they
exchange data they exchange information
they work together this is not a new
phenomenon the IRA was working with
islamis terrorist organizations in North
Africa people were shocked well of
course you know all of these various
entities have agendas and they sometimes
coincide what would you tell Joe Biden
to
do uh other than uh make arrangements to
go to the nearest rest home you know I
would certainly suggest that uh he stop
harassing Texas and the other Republican
state Governors uh that he stay away
from the Texas National Guard let the
Texas National Guard do its job of
protecting those States and as far as
New Mexico and California that
apparently regard themselves as not
really part of the United States and
therefore don't care what happens to
their borders we should consider putting
federal troops there immediately I I
meant what would you advise him to do
with respect to uh Israel and the uh
soldiers that were killed uh in Syria or
Jordan wherever it was well first of all
it would be very useful for us to
privately behind the scenes Talk to
these various actors but clear clearly
there is no mission for US forces in the
region on the ground in Iraq or Syria
they're effectively magnets for attack
they have been in that position now for
quite a while there's nothing for them
to do the Isis is not a big issue any
longer between the Iranians and the
Shiite militias they trained and the
Russians Isis has been largely
eliminated I know everyone likes to beat
their chest and argue that we did the
bulk of the work we did not was done by
Iranians and Russia Russians and we
worked with them by the way even the
Iranians that we now want to attack uh
people don't seem to get it and
understand what's real and what isn't
but the bottom line is we should get
them out there's no reason for them to
be there if Iran and Israel are in a war
and we come to the aid uh of Israel will
Russia get involved on the side of Iran
well Russia has made it very clear that
it regards Iran as a strategic partner
of great importance there is an
agreement that's on the table for
Signature by Moscow that would
effectively permanently
arrange uh things to ensure that Russia
does come to Iran's aid but I think
that's a formality Russia will not stand
by and allow us to destroy Iran they
will provide Iran with whatever it needs
to protect itself and they will stand by
Iran by the way the Chinese who have
critical interests in access to the
Persian Gulf and access to to uh East
Africa where they get great quantities
of food will not stand by and do nothing
while we force Iran to submit or die in
which case Iran will fight and probably
close the Suez uh you can write off the
or excuse me not the Suz The Straits of
Hormuz you can write off the Suz along
with the
uh you know the Straits down between
Africa and Y
which I think is called the Gate of
tears those things will all be closed
you know the Chinese have already taken
actions to protect themselves by making
it impossible for us to gain access to a
number of Upstream minerals that we
regard as essential to our national
security and the building of military
equipment they're concerned about what
we're prepared to do we we need to back
away from this this will become Regional
and I would say semi global very quickly
and the greatest danger is that the
Israelis will respond but with the use
of a nuclear weapon particularly as they
watch their cities Tel Aviv hia and so
forth largely annihilated by these
arsenals of missiles and if that were to
happen I think that that would have
catastrophic consequences for Israel in
the world far worse than anything we've
seen thus far Colonel thank you very
much you've just uh experienced the
largest audience you've ever had on this
show of those watching live which
usually translates into an enormous
audience of those who will be watching
uh streaming uh thanks for your time
thanks for your Insight uh we'll talk to
you again soon my friend sure thank you
judge of course
byebye what a uh terrifying picture he
painted but with such logic and
precision uh and understanding coming up
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