What Is A Biblical Man? Jonny Ardavanis and Greg Gifford
Summary
TLDRIn this insightful discussion, Dr. Greg Ford delves into the concept of biblical masculinity amidst a hyper-feminized culture. He emphasizes the importance of balancing strength, gentleness, and purity, and not just reacting to societal pressures. Ford outlines key character traits for godly men, such as courage, initiative, and respect for women, and stresses the necessity of being proactive in leadership roles. He also addresses the dangers of passivity in men, equating it to sin and urging men to take action in line with biblical teachings for the benefit of their families and communities.
Takeaways
- 🔹 The concept of biblical masculinity is a hot topic in a world that is increasingly hyper-feminized, and it's important to find a balance that is not just a reaction to culture or church teachings.
- 🔹 Biblical masculinity includes elements of strength, gentleness, protection, and provision, and should not be confused with machismo or a lack of leadership.
- 🔹 Recognizing the biological differences between men and women is a part of understanding masculinity, with men typically having greater physical strength.
- 🔹 Cultural expectations of masculinity can vary widely and should be evaluated in light of biblical principles, not blindly followed.
- 🔹 The Bible calls for men to exhibit courage (1 Corinthians 16:13), distinguishing them from cowardice, which is unmanly and unchristlike.
- 🔹 Purity is a key trait for men as per biblical teachings, emphasizing respectful and honorable relationships with women, including those not related to them.
- 🔹 Initiative is a characteristic of godly men, with passivity being unmanly and a form of sin, as seen in the story of Adam in Genesis 3.
- 🔹 Gentleness is also a biblical command for men, as seen in Ephesians 6 and Colossians 3, and is not to be confused with being harsh or rude.
- 🔹 A godly man should be others-minded, sacrificial, and exhibit a love for others, which naturally leads to gentleness.
- 🔹 The full-orbed character of God, including both strength and gentleness, should be the model for biblical manhood, avoiding the extremes of being overly macho or overly passive.
- 🔹 For men struggling with passivity, the scriptural call is to learn from the Bible, fill in knowledge gaps, and actively implement godly principles in their lives.
Q & A
What is the main topic of discussion in the video script?
-The main topic of discussion in the video script is biblical masculinity and its balance between strength and gentleness, as well as the habits that men should implement to be godly men.
Why is the topic of biblical masculinity considered a hot topic in today's world?
-The topic of biblical masculinity is considered a hot topic because we live in an increasingly hyper-feminized world, which prompts men, especially in the church, to respond by seeking to be more masculine, sometimes leading to an overemphasis on machismo or an incorrect understanding of biblical manliness.
What is the speaker's view on the quest for biblical masculinity leading to an extreme of machismo?
-The speaker believes that the quest for biblical masculinity should not lead to an extreme of machismo, as it may be divorced from what true manliness and masculinity look like in the scriptures.
What does the speaker suggest is the right balance in understanding biblical masculinity?
-The speaker suggests that the right balance in understanding biblical masculinity involves recognizing the importance of strength, protection, provision, and gentleness, and not just reacting against the culture or other groups' philosophies of manhood.
What are some of the character traits of a godly man according to the script?
-Some of the character traits of a godly man mentioned in the script include courage, purity, taking initiative, gentleness, and being Christ-like in all aspects.
Why is courage considered an important trait for a godly man?
-Courage is considered an important trait for a godly man because it is a call for boldness and strength under control, which is necessary for protection and leadership roles that a man may have in the family and church.
What does the speaker mean by 'strength under control' in the context of biblical masculinity?
-By 'strength under control,' the speaker means that a godly man should have the strength to protect and provide but also the self-control to exercise that strength appropriately and not become overly aggressive or harsh.
How does the speaker address the issue of cultural expectations in relation to masculinity?
-The speaker addresses the issue of cultural expectations by distinguishing between cultural norms that may not align with biblical principles or biology, and encourages men to understand and reject cultural expectations that go against their biology and the Bible.
What is the speaker's view on the role of a godly man in relation to women?
-The speaker's view is that a godly man should be respectful, pure, and protective towards women, using his strength to care for them, and maintaining appropriate boundaries in relationships with women who are not his wife or family.
What advice does the speaker give to men who struggle with passivity in their lives?
-The speaker advises men who struggle with passivity to recognize it as a sin and to actively work on taking initiative in their lives, learning necessary skills, and implementing what they learn from the scripture, regardless of their feelings.
How does the speaker discuss the importance of initiative for a godly man?
-The speaker discusses the importance of initiative by stating that a godly man should not be passive or wait for others to tell him what to do. Instead, he should take the lead in his life, family, and church, understanding that there are roles only he can fulfill.
What does the speaker suggest as a way for men to grow in their understanding and expression of biblical masculinity?
-The speaker suggests that men should surround themselves with other godly men who can encourage and challenge them, learn from the scripture, and apply the teachings in their daily lives, ensuring they are both hearers and doers of the word.
Outlines
🚀 Biblical Masculinity and the Quest for Balance
The conversation begins with a discussion on biblical masculinity, highlighting the challenge of defining it in a hyper-feminized society. The speaker emphasizes the importance of not swinging to extremes of machismo or gentleness but finding a balance that aligns with scriptural teachings. The importance of strength, protection, provision, and controlled strength is discussed. The speaker also addresses the cultural and scriptural expectations of men, suggesting that a true understanding of masculinity should guide men's habits and actions, leading to godly leadership within the family and church.
🌟 The Portrait of Godly Masculinity
This paragraph delves deeper into the characteristics of godly masculinity, starting with the acknowledgment of biological differences that inform masculine expression, such as physical strength. The speaker also touches on cultural expectations and how they can sometimes conflict with biblical teachings. The importance of distinguishing between cultural norms and scriptural guidelines is emphasized, with examples provided to illustrate the point. The paragraph concludes with a call to understand masculinity through the lens of scripture, rather than cultural trends.
🛡️ Courage, Purity, and the Distinctiveness of Biblical Manhood
The speaker discusses the importance of courage as a key trait of biblical manhood, using examples from everyday life to illustrate the point. Purity is also highlighted as a critical aspect, with the speaker explaining how men should relate to women with respect and honor, as sisters or mothers in Christ. The paragraph also touches on the idea of initiative, suggesting that passivity in men is unbiblical and unmanly. The speaker encourages men to take the lead in their families and communities, embodying the traits of a Godly man as outlined in scripture.
🌱 Gentleness and the Full-Orbed Character of God
In this paragraph, the conversation turns to the importance of gentleness in the context of biblical manhood. The speaker argues that while courage is essential, an overemphasis can lead to harshness, which is contrary to the gentle and lowly character of Christ. The speaker emphasizes the need for men to be patient, encouraging, and respectful, especially in their interactions with women and children. The paragraph concludes with a reminder that Christ's character includes both strength and gentleness, and that men should strive to reflect this balance in their own lives.
🔨 From Passivity to Action: The Call to Godly Manhood
The final paragraph focuses on the dangers of passivity in men and the importance of taking initiative, as called for in scripture. The speaker discusses the negative impact of a passive man on his family and the church, and how it can lead to frustration and damage in relationships. The need for men to learn and implement biblical principles in their lives is stressed, with the speaker encouraging men to surround themselves with godly influences that can spur them on to action. The paragraph concludes with a call to action for men to rise above passivity and embrace the fullness of their God-given roles as leaders and protectors.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Biblical Masculinity
💡Hyper Feminized World
💡Machismo
💡Gentleness
💡Courage
💡Purity
💡Initiative
💡Passivity
💡Strength
💡Culture
💡Christlikeness
Highlights
Discussion on the concept of biblical masculinity in a hyper-feminized world and its importance in the church.
The potential swing to machismo or gentleness and meekness as extremes of biblical masculinity and the need for a balanced approach.
The importance of recognizing the physical strength aspect of masculinity as a biological factor.
Cultural expectations of masculinity and their potential conflict with biblical principles.
The distinction between masculine and feminine roles and the importance of maintaining these distinctions in society and parenting.
The scriptural call for men to exhibit courage and boldness, contrasting with cowardice.
The requirement for men to treat women with purity and respect, as sisters or mothers in Christ.
The importance of initiative in men, as passivity is considered unmanly and against Godly character.
The role of gentleness in biblical masculinity and its distinction from harshness.
The balance between the different aspects of Christ's character, including both strength and gentleness.
The necessity for men to take initiative in their roles in the family and church, as passivity can be destructive.
The importance of learning and implementing biblical knowledge to overcome passivity in men.
The potential negative impact of a passive man on family dynamics and the importance of active engagement.
The advice for young men to surround themselves with godly male role models to foster growth in biblical masculinity.
The call for men to not only learn but also to apply biblical principles in their lives to be effective godly leaders.
The final emphasis on the importance of being a godly man and the personal responsibility each man has to pursue this goal.
Transcripts
Dr gford thanks for sitting down I
wanted to talk to you about biblical
masculinity we're really talking about a
Hot Topic because we live in an
increasingly hyper feminized world right
and I think men specifically and
particularly in the church respond to
that and go we need to be men and I
think that there is an element where
that is good and right and biblical but
sometimes on a quest to be a Biblical
man's man we swing to the side of the
spectrum of machismo that maybe actually
divorced from what manliness and
masculinity looks like in the scripture
right um so someone might go from it's
it's machismo and then someone will go
no it's not that it's it's gentleness
and meekness which would be true but it
also includes this element of strength
and protection and provision and it
almost appears at times like our
philosophy of manhood is a reaction
against either the culture or what this
church or group is doing and it seems to
not have the
appropriate balance and I don't even
necessarily I'm not fond of the word
balance because it sometimes feels
synonymous with compromise but there is
a reality where it's strength under
control um talk to us just about
biblical masculinity what are some
habits that men should Implement uh
where they could be a godly man if I'm a
woman which I'm not but what should they
be looking for uh in just the habits of
a man that hey this is a guy that could
lead my family things like
that yeah so I'll start with the first
one so let's start with the idea of
Godly masculinity because I think if you
paint that picture that is what a lady
wants in the end she wants a Godly Man
and I'm open to critique you know but
every time I say that I say ladies I
think you want a Godly Man and I've yet
to have a lady come up and say Dr gford
I don't like I I want a macho you know I
want the over maized over masculinized I
want this kind of like brutish man or I
want this eminite man I want this man
that just lacks leadership and yeah so I
think that is the that's what the lady
wants in the end but let's talk about
the portrait itself it seems that
there's a few things that we have to
wrestle with that we haven't always
given careful place to um I've been
surprised how much this is a popular
topic cuz I it just always seems
straightforward to me like I just yeah
it's pretty black and white yeah I was
just like you know um seems like a man
does these things and doesn't do these
things and so what I I tried to do on
transformed is I tried to work through
with which is your podcast for people
that don't know yeah yeah so transformed
and I was I did like the seven-part
series on masculinity and I was trying
to help people see what makes you a man
and not a woman and that's the that's
the piper ISM the piper quote is which
like which is like a fighting topic you
know which is crazy you know but I'll
hear it described like this like a man
is patient it's like well a woman's
patient like that's the fruit of the
spirit like what are we talking about
here so some of those things it was just
like yeah I don't know if you've really
answered the question what is the
character trait of a man and not a so if
a woman did not have that it's okay in
her sanctification but if a man did not
have that then that's going to be a
significant problem and that's where I
think you start to distill down if you
can begin to just ask if a woman didn't
do it she would still be honoring to the
Lord in all fairness if she didn't do
that thing she would still be honoring
to the Lord I think you're now getting
at the character traits of the
distinction yes the distinction so all
right so there's a couple of things you
got to acknowledge biology I mean like
short of being ignorant to a certain
degree like our biology informs
masculinity to include things like
physical strength you know uh physically
we are stronger primarily not because we
work out more but just because the Lord
has built us differently muscularly and
so just include biology as part of
masculinity you use your biology to
inform the expression of your
masculinity moving day yeah who are you
calling on moving day dudes the dudes
yeah um Can a lady move boxes and
couches absolutely she can more power to
her if she wants to yeah but everyone
like this is common knowledge everyone
knows that the physical strength of a
man is greater than that of a woman
which is why the whole women wom's the
dudes competing in women's sports stuff
is it's so yeah it's so touchy right now
because even an unbeliever knows there's
a physical Advantage yeah okay so you
got your biology but then you also have
these weird cultural
expectations MH if if you're not careful
I think you can actually ignore what a
North American culture expects of a man
yeah what do I mean by that I mean
technically I could be here right now
dressed like someone from Afghanistan
kind of a long robe and you'd be
thinking like hey Greg what's the matter
with you and I'm like Johnny this is
acceptable masculinity in Afghanistan
and you need to learn to deal with it
like think of our Hudson Taylor or China
a lot
ofat I'm not going to show you my hands
right now but there are things where
it's like you have to accept some of the
way the culture expects a man to act
yeah and that's parenting in a nutshell
to a certain degree it's like why do I
say no Barbie well it's not the plastic
fibers are going to infect you and
somehow that's sinful it's well that
typically corresponds to being a female
in our culture boys so that's why you
don't play with Barbies now how do you
know when you say culture is wrong and I
reject it it's when the culture goes
against your biology and against the
Bible yeah so if culture says I need to
have laser hair removal to be a man I
say thank you but no thank you yeah
doing it so I think that's like I think
something what you're saying is is
really helpful there is a level where
everyone casts everything as a
subjective opinion so my son likes
Barbies like what's the big idea it's
plastic what's the difference between a
soldier and a you know American Girl
doll you know um well you would say a
lot because it corresponds to what's
culturally identifiable with either
masculinity or femininity that's right
and you're maybe allowing for him to be
desens Iz to the distinction in those
roles I think even in in the realm of
parenting that's really important so you
talked about first our biology right
then just the cultural expectation I
think it's true like sometimes people
are like yeah well this is what they
wear over there and you're like well
over here we wear pants and a t-shirt we
don't wear dresses just like I people
you used the argument with like William
Wallace was the manliest man in the
world and he wore a kilt you know what's
to prevent guys from wearing a skirt and
you're like well first of all we're not
uh 500 years ago is every man wearing a
skirt right now in all no no one's
wearing a skirt um and I don't see any
bag pipes so I think that that idea is
it's really helpful like there's a
cultural expectation and that cultural
expectation is morphing though so then
even like when you go well 30 years ago
would have been a guy can't wear this
but now guys wear black earrings and
paint their fingernails right so how do
you tell a 21-year-old cuz that's a new
thing guys paint their nails black um
it's cool well I would say historically
that has been identified with females
they paint their nails dudes do not
paint their nails right but then they
would say well that's just a cultural
argument that was the cultural thing
back then that's morphed how do you even
go well understand this from a
historical perspective you know how
would you respond to that rebuttle yeah
I think some of those are easy rebuttal
the same thing I would say about wearing
a dress or the same thing about wearing
makeup I mean there are certain things
where you say the better part of wisdom
is not to miscommunicate the nature of
who you are yeah so am I going to say
you're an absolute sin for painting your
nails I'm not going to say that but I am
going to say that you're
miscommunicating masculinity in that way
why because you cultivate masculinity or
you cultivate femininity in another
sense yeah sliding or climbing yeah like
one way or the other yes so
which are you an absolute sin no but
you're you're miscommunicating the fact
that you're a male Yeah by by doing
certain things that Corr respond to a
female okay so no I agree and so one
biology two cultural expectation three
what else biblical masculinity character
traits character traits character traits
okay talk to me about some of those so
think of what's acceptable for a lady to
not do and honor Jesus um when we're
told 1 Corinthians 16:13 act like men
yeah that is a call for courage yeah
boldness if a man is a coward that's
actually unmanly and un Christlike for
him easy example we're both married
middle of the night we hear that crash
you know that noise in the house usually
for us it's like a picture fell and my
wife's like hey babe I just heard
something I'm like what it literally is
all the
pictures where can you go see what that
was and I'm like actually no I'm kind of
scared can can you go Che honey please
go check the
door yeah she she brings the whacker
yeah yeah are we safe
yeah not only is that unmanly of me but
it's actually going against Godly
character which is courage so does that
mean that you can't be fearful as a man
it doesn't mean you can't be fearful it
just means that you're not going to be
fear-driven you are bold and courageous
knowing that God is with you yeah an
easy example is courage first character
trait I think the next one is the idea
of Purity yeah there are certain things
1 Timothy 5: two treat all you know
treat the older ladies as as moms excuse
me the younger women as sisters in all
Purity yeah so what does that mean the
way you relate to a woman should be
inity you are relating to her as a
sister or a mom with all Purity yeah now
what does that mean it's unmanly to be
impure towards women yeah that's unmanly
but it's also un Christlike yeah and and
in that way there are things that I can
say to a brother that I cannot say to a
sister there are things that sisters can
say to sisters sisters in Christ
brothers in Christ but for me to say
that to a female is unmanly and un
Christlike so that's distinctive for a
man yeah there are parameters that are
distinctive for men a couple of others
to think about maybe just one one a
quick thing on the Purity thing so in
our world being a man is sometimes being
a woman I you know you prove your
manliness by being a woman resp Bond
yeah like from a Biblical perspective
that's actually the antonym of biblical
man manhood yes because manhood has a
proper perspective that this is a sister
or a mother in Christ and I'm to honor
her with my Purity not to fraud heronian
that's right and I think Purity is one
way that you act dishonorable towards
women yeah but if when I say honorable
towards women I think it's actually
bigger than Purity as well you're
respectful yeah shiverers you use your
strength to protect women not including
not not just your wife and sister or
daughter but that you're actually using
your strength to care for women that are
not related to you there are there are
certain aspects of what it looks like to
be a man and using your character your
physiology to care for women even if
you're not married to them or related to
them being honorable towards a woman
okay so you mentioned uh courage Purity
what else yeah Purity I would add
initiative to this and in fact I think
passivity is part of what Adam is
confronted for in Genesis 3 you listen
because you listen to the voice of your
wife what's the break down there well
it's not that men should begin to ignore
their wives like oh that's the key
takeaway it's that Adam failed to take
the initiative to be a Godly leader
that's right so passivity is unmanly
yeah just straight up it's unmanly I
actually think it's okay for a lady to
demonstrate that she's not going to be
the one to take initiative she's not
going to be the one to step up and be
the leader of her home like she is
waiting on her husband to do those
things so that is a distinction like a
lady can wait and not be the one to take
initiative but the man needs to take
initiative and he needs to understand
that in family in church there are
certain places where he is the one he is
the only one that can fulfill that role
so to speak so what does it mean to be
manly well a characteristic of a Godly
Man is that he takes initiative no one
has to micromanage him no one has to
tell him how to run his own life he owns
his own life he eats his own bread 2
Thessalonians 3 like he's got this
mentality of I am not going to be told
what to do in the sense of I'm not going
to be micromanaged but I'm going to I
need someone to spurt me on on
everything in life yeah no totally like
you shouldn't have to come to me and
tell me how to run my life and do basic
things I'm taking initiative to take
care of those things that's so helpful I
remember my dad always used to even ever
since I was a boy he would always tell
me never let the grass grow under your
feet John you know the way you parent a
son is different than the way he
parented his Five Daughters you know but
the main thing I would say the main
thing outside of like love the word of
God was take initiative take initiative
take initiative and I think I watched so
many guys kind of waiting for something
to happen but that is a huge distinction
between a man and a woman there's an
acceptability of the passivity in a
woman it's actually sometimes healthy
you know like she's not trying to take
his spot or she's doing her best to know
her role and what's not her role and
what's his role yeah that's helpful any
others you said just in that character
realm yeah I would include gentleness
because I actually see that Ephesians 6
talks about not provoking your children
to anger or Colossians 3 talks about not
being harsh toward your wife so why not
front low gentleness um well I think the
scripture includes it but I think some
of the most basic things are the 1
Corinthians 1613 which say be courageous
act like men be courageous but yet a man
that starts to over machiz things can
become a harsh man which is why fathers
are told not to exasperate their kids or
be harsh with their wives so what do I
mean by that well if you want to choose
like a synonym for not being harsh
that's what I'm calling gentleness so
does that mean a lady can be harsh no
that's not what I'm arguing I'm saying
there are specific commands to men to
not provoke their children or not be
harsh toward their wife that are not
given to women so what am I what are we
calling that that it's that's gentleness
that he's even killed he's Meek he's
kind of mild-tempered part of it's just
godliness right like like that's
encourages other people he's patient
with other people desires to build them
up and edify them he's not using you
know crass harsh or crude or rude
language yeah I think sometimes people
but guys don't always get that they
often get to like this look out there
little lady you know like let me get
that for you and it just comes off as
Gruff and harsh and it's like hey you're
unmanly right now because you're
actually un you're undermining the very
character that God's called you to
pursue yeah and part of yeah part of
that is like obviously having like a
sacrificial attitude and part of that
even goes along with the courage thing
like in order to be courageous in a lot
of those different Realms you have to be
others minded Y and being others minded
necessitates that you have a love for
other people which hopefully produces as
a you know and is a catalyst to
gentleness towards them and I do think
even what you said about not front
loading is important because a lot of
people Spectrum swing in their theology
philosophy oh this is the gruff guys I
don't want to be the gruff guys I don't
want to be them so manliness is
gentleness and meekness which is true
and you put it forth out of you know not
necessarily because it's peripheral but
because there are certain things that
maybe you should have fundamentally
right and you could say that it should
be um the first one you said again was
courageous or your biology then you said
that there is an element of cultural
expectation then you mentioned those
character traits of Purity and courage
and then you could say just on top of
that that and there's a godliness Christ
likeness and then that Christ likeness
is an umbrella that includes he says
he's gentle and lowly right and then
people will say if you told them well
Jesus is lowly and gent gentle they'll
say well he also drove the the animals
out of the Temple and so there is a
level where well yeah exactly you know
like yes there's a both and yes and I
think sometimes people are like my Jesus
my manhood is the drive the animals out
of the temple Jesus and then my Jesus is
let the little children
yes and they miss that there's a full
ored character of God there that should
be our model for manliness yes that's
right that's right cuz if you
overemphasize the courage you're I think
you're over Macho ising certain things
and everybody's driving a truck and
hunting and it's just like okay that's
cool for some guys but not every guy has
to do that yeah you're a mustang guy
you're yeah it's got to be a Mustang or
a Harley honestly or or you're not manly
but then the other side is but if I if I
lead with gentleness then the gentle guy
needs to be courageous and there may be
the naturally Meek Mr Rogers type that
actually needs to step his game up a
little bit and be a little bit more
proactive and being honorable to women
or using his strength to care for them
and being courageous
simultaneously so imagine this this
comes full circle now because think you
brought up the idea of of ladies and how
this benefits ladies imagine a godly man
that is exhibiting these things a lady
gladly and freely and joyfully wants to
be a part of that yeah it's not a chore
to have to maybe biblically submit to a
guy that's a Godly courageous Gentle
Leader you know like that's not um
that's not a hard thing to sign up for
in that regard that's so important I
think um you know even part of the local
church is I think there are different
guys that maybe have you know rub off on
you in certain ways and go man that guy
is gentle and meek in his character and
maybe this guy like if let's say I'm a
guy and I struggle with that courage
part and I am passive what would be your
you know just your biblical input there
obviously run to the scripture see who
Christ is but um how do I go about man I
need to surround myself with men that
can push me to be a man yes what does
that look like for me if I'm a young man
or I'm 45y old and I'm a passive guy
what would you say yeah passivity is
just as crushing as the angry husband I
think sometimes even more because angry
the angry husband is so palpably wrong
yeah but the passive guy is just Mr
vanilla yeah and he just never does he
never Rises up like he never helps he's
always got to be asked the kids are
yelling at Mom and he doesn't intervene
we need more money just pilot a
situation it's just kind of like he's
just there and most of the time he's not
a bad guy he's just very passive in that
way what he's got to see is that his sin
is just as taxing as if he were
explosively angry him being passive is
destructive and it's important to see it
as a sin I think yeah like oh I think
most people would go are you serious a
sin you know just maybe continue to Har
Genesis 3 yeah like go read Genesis 3
that's what the Lord tells to Adam
because you listened to the voice of
your wife because he was passive he then
failed and transgression Romans 5 enters
in through one man so this mentality you
have to see as being dangerous yeah the
passive guy who's a passive single guy
will be a passive married guy so boom
roasted yeah you just think about like
if you're 25 and you're just kind of
like puts in along through life and
you're working part-time at GameStop and
there's not a whole lot going on here
kind of the appropriate cultural analogy
gam it usually resonates last time I was
I was in GameStop last time with one of
my sons I was like yep
still so yeah because there'll be
passive single guys will be passive
husbands okay so who are passive fathers
who then just start to frustrate
everybody in the proc let's say your
father talking to a your daughter she's
interested in a guy I mean for me that
would be one of my first questions yes
is he a I use the language is he a
go-getter does he get after it yeah does
he take initiative because to your point
it's more dangerous than a guy that has
explosive anger issues right and has
more damage um so yeah what does that
guy do or what is this young man who's
single or this married man that's
looking at his three kids you know
nagging his wife and he's just got a
default position of passivity what does
he go do yeah these guys need to learn
what to do if they don't know what to do
yeah like fill in the ignorance with
Biblical knowledge and then do it yeah
so think just do it yeah yeah there's a
certain sense in which maybe you don't
know how to be a a parent and you got to
learn that skill totally I'm open to
that so you you use the authoritative
word of God to fill in what's lacking in
your understanding
and then you have to say to him that
knows to do the right thing and doesn't
do it to him at in like I know what I
should be doing I need to do it now
that's going to be the biggest
difference so skills learn the skills
learn the listening skill learn the
parenting skill learn the conflict
resolution skill learn those things you
may not know but then you need to
implement because if you don't you can
learn all of this truth from the
scripture and Vex your family even more
frustrate the people that are around you
even more implementation being a hearer
and a doer of the word so if if that guy
is hearing this right now there has to
be kind of this shock into action you're
going to frustrate those that are around
you you're going to damage things that
really matter if you don't learn what
God's word says and then Implement and
Obey what it's calling you to do whether
you feel like it or not doing what God's
word's calling you to do that's so
helpful and I think even Rootin in all
these things and even what you're saying
this is a scriptural command act like a
man and so understanding even even our
vulnerabilities and our dispositional
Tendencies are so important so Greg
thanks for just your input and regarding
one that there is a biological component
there's a cultural expectation then
there's a character kind of a principle
set that were to be courageous and pure
that we're to take initiative and we're
to be gentle appropriately gentle and so
I think all these things are important
my prayer for my own life is that I'd be
a godly man I don't I I always pray Lord
uh help me to be a godly man because I
think there is a distinction between
what godliness looks like for my wife
and what godliness looks like for me
yeah and so I think even the way that
you've set up that distinction is so
helpful so thank you for your time and
your input in this for absolutely
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