What are The Best Places to Move if You're Building Wealth?
Summary
TLDRIn this insightful video, Michael from Offshore Citizen addresses the question of where individuals should consider moving to build wealth. He emphasizes that while wealth can theoretically be built anywhere, certain locations offer unique advantages for success. Michael suggests that the best places to start are often those with a strong social safety net, like the US or certain European countries, which allow individuals to take risks without severe consequences. As one's business grows, he advises considering a move to locations with a thriving entrepreneurial community, good infrastructure, and a favorable tax environment, such as Dubai, Portugal, or Puerto Rico. Michael also discusses the importance of cultural factors, such as a location's work ethic and lifestyle, which can significantly impact productivity and the ability to build wealth. He concludes by encouraging viewers to consider their personal circumstances and the specific needs of their business when choosing a location to maximize their chances of success.
Takeaways
- 🌍 Location is crucial for building wealth, with certain 'hotbeds' being more conducive to success in specific industries.
- 🏦 High tax rates and regulations are less impactful on wealth creation than a supportive ecosystem for growth.
- 🎬 Success in a particular field often requires being in the right place; for example, Hollywood for movies, Silicon Valley for tech startups.
- 💼 The importance of access to capital, talent, social circles, and job opportunities in building wealth.
- 🧵 Starting a business is easier in places with a strong social safety net, allowing for risk-taking without severe consequences.
- 📈 Wealth generation is not just about low taxes and low regulation; it's also about the enabling structure for success.
- 🚀 For early-stage entrepreneurs, first-world countries with established infrastructure and social services can be advantageous.
- 🌱 As businesses grow, entrepreneurs may relocate to places with a higher concentration of expats, entrepreneurs, and a business-friendly environment.
- 💰 The cultural aspect of a location matters; some cultures foster productivity and hustle, while others may prioritize leisure.
- ⛱️ Lifestyle benefits of a location should not overshadow the functional aspects needed for building wealth, such as access to health care and low living costs.
- 🌟 Success stories are more likely to come from places that have exhausted ideas, where bringing innovation can give a competitive edge.
Q & A
What is the main topic of discussion in the video?
-The main topic is about identifying the best places for individuals to build wealth, considering various factors such as tax rates, regulation, social safety nets, and the presence of successful ecosystems in different locations.
Why does the speaker suggest looking at places where wealth is already being built?
-The speaker suggests this approach to extrapolate backwards and understand what factors in those places are contributing to wealth creation, which can provide insights into what makes a location conducive to building wealth.
What are some of the factors that the speaker mentions as important for building wealth in a location?
-Factors mentioned include population dynamics, language, tax rates, regulation, social safety net, weather, geographic location, access to capital, talent, social circles, and job opportunities.
Why does the speaker believe that the tax rates might not be as significant for someone just starting out?
-The speaker believes that for someone starting out, who is not making a large income, the impact of taxes is relatively small compared to the benefits of being in an ecosystem that fosters growth and success.
What role does the social safety net play in building wealth, according to the speaker?
-The social safety net allows individuals to take risks and possibly fail without severe consequences, which is important for innovation and wealth creation. It provides a basic level of security that can be crucial when starting out.
Why does the speaker suggest that certain high-tax places like Denmark and Sweden produce more successful startups?
-The speaker suggests that the social safety nets in these countries allow individuals to take risks without the fear of severe financial fallout, which can lead to more innovation and startup success.
What does the speaker mean when they talk about 'field-specific advantages'?
-The speaker refers to the idea that certain locations may offer unique benefits or opportunities that are particularly advantageous to specific industries or fields, such as Hollywood for the movie industry or Silicon Valley for technology startups.
Why might someone choose to move their business to a different location as it grows?
-As businesses grow, they may outgrow the benefits of their original location. Factors such as less favorable laws, higher costs, or the need for a broader talent pool may necessitate a move to a new location that better supports their expansion.
What are some of the challenges someone might face when trying to build wealth in a place like Italy or Spain?
-Challenges might include a culture that is more focused on leisure and less on hustle, oppressive weather conditions that can affect productivity, and potentially less access to capital and entrepreneurial networks.
Why does the speaker recommend certain 'first world' countries for individuals starting out?
-The speaker recommends these locations because they often have a good social safety net, infrastructure, and access to services that can support individuals as they build their wealth and businesses.
What is the speaker's view on the importance of cultural fit and lifestyle when choosing a location to build wealth?
-The speaker believes that cultural fit and lifestyle are important considerations. A location that supports productivity, offers a good quality of life, and aligns with the individual's work ethic and goals can be more conducive to wealth creation.
Outlines
🌟 Identifying Wealth-Building Locations
Michael discusses the best places for individuals to build wealth, emphasizing that while wealth can theoretically be built anywhere, certain 'hotbeds' are more conducive to success. He invites viewers to comment on the factors they believe are significant for wealth creation in a location, such as population dynamics, language, tax rates, regulation, social safety nets, weather, and geographic location. Michael suggests that understanding the success factors of these places can inform where to build wealth.
🌱 Stages of Wealth Building and Their Impact
The second paragraph explores how different circumstances impact individuals at various stages of wealth building. Michael uses examples to illustrate that when people struggle with basic necessities, it's challenging to innovate or build wealth. He contrasts this with the situation in countries like Denmark and Sweden, where a strong social safety net allows people to take risks and potentially leads to the creation of high-value startups, or 'unicorns.' He also touches on the idea that taxes are less impactful when one is not making significant income and that cultural factors, such as a focus on productivity versus leisure, can influence wealth creation.
🚀 Starting Wealth Building in First World Countries
In the third paragraph, Michael proposes that starting wealth building in first world countries might be advantageous due to their social safety nets, infrastructure, and services. He suggests that once an individual has some savings, experience, and connections, they can leverage these environments to build momentum. He also discusses the importance of having access to capital, a supportive social circle, and a conducive environment for building a side hustle. Michael contrasts the benefits of starting in a higher-income country with the challenges of starting in a lower-income country, where wages and resources may be more limited.
🌐 Location Independence and Scaling Wealth
The fourth paragraph focuses on the idea that once an individual has achieved a certain level of success, the choice of location can change. Michael suggests that for online businesses or those with location independence, the choice of location is less critical. However, for those who need to be in a particular geographic area for their business, he recommends places with a high degree of expats, entrepreneurs, good infrastructure, and low taxes. He also discusses the limitations of certain locations in supporting businesses as they scale from six to seven or eight figures and suggests places like Dubai, Puerto Rico, Portugal, and Singapore as potential locations for scaling wealth.
🏙️ Industry-Specific Locations for Wealth Building
In the fifth and final paragraph, Michael addresses industry-specific locations for wealth building. He talks about the importance of being in an environment that supports the right deals for industries like real estate. He mentions the benefits of starting in countries with a good safety net and then focusing on specific cities within those countries that have a strong entrepreneurial culture. Michael also discusses the potential of going to locations where there's a shortage of ideas and being the one to bring innovation, which can lead to success in markets that might otherwise be considered less favorable for wealth creation.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Wealth Building
💡Location Factors
💡Tax Rates
💡Regulation
💡Social Safety Net
💡Entrepreneurial Culture
💡Infrastructure
💡Expatriate Entrepreneurs
💡Cultural Shift
💡Economic Mobility
💡Risk Taking
Highlights
Wealth can theoretically be built anywhere, but certain 'hotbeds' are more conducive to success.
Identifying factors significant to wealth building in a location rather than personal characteristics is crucial.
Examining places where wealth is currently being built can help extrapolate what leads to wealth creation.
Field-specific advantages are important; for example, Hollywood for movies or Silicon Valley for tech startups.
Tax rates are a small factor relative to an ecosystem that fosters growth.
Access to capital, talent, and social circles are often more critical than tax benefits for building wealth.
Wealth generation is not proportional in all regions, pointing to structural differences affecting success.
The level of personal journey influences the set of circumstances that can aid in wealth creation.
Struggling with basic necessities can hinder innovation and progress.
Denmark and Sweden have a high per capita rate of producing unicorn companies, despite high taxes and regulations.
Social safety nets can enable risk-taking and failure without severe consequences.
Taxes matter less when you're not making significant income; the focus should be on growth and opportunity.
Cultural aspects that foster productivity and action are more important than a relaxed and leisurely environment for wealth building.
Starting a business in locations with a strong entrepreneurial culture and support system is beneficial.
As businesses grow, entrepreneurs often move to locations with better infrastructure and regulations.
Eastern European countries can be good for initial growth, but may not support scaling to higher levels.
Places like Dubai, Puerto Rico, and Portugal are suggested for the next stage of business growth.
For online businesses, Eastern Europe offers low taxes and good infrastructure, but may lack in talent pool for scaling.
Innovative ideas in markets where local innovation is low can provide a competitive edge.
Leaving and then re-entering a market can provide a new perspective and competitive advantage.
Transcripts
welcome back everyone michael here with
offshore citizen
the last few days we had a video on the
subject of
where my wealthiest clients are moving
this was a question that some of our
people had in the comments and it
spurred another question
in the comment which was okay great
these are you know people have already
built wealth
what about for people who are wanting to
build where are the best places for
those people to go and today i'm going
to discuss that now
of course you know a person in theory
can build wealth anywhere
and so you know i think the more
interesting thing is to say
all right how do we identify what are
the
key hotbeds that are going to be most
responsible
for creating some kind of success and
probably some of the answers are going
to disappoint you
that being said hopefully they are
useful so
i'm going to start off the conversation
by asking you this question
what factors do you believe are most
significant or most
important in building wealth
in other words and i'm talking about
that from the perspective of
a location right so we're not talking
about the personal characteristics that
somebody has
we're not talking about you know
something like that but rather what
if you were to choose a location what
factors in that location
are most significant in someone building
wealth
okay and so would love to hear from you
in the comments let me know and let's uh
let's kind of explore this
so i mean we can look at a pretty broad
range of criteria
right we can look at okay the population
dynamics in the country we can look at
things like language we can look at
things like tax rates we can look at
things like regulation
we can look at things like social safety
net we can look at things like weather
we can look at things like geographic
location
probably 10 other things right
i'm going to imply or suggest to you
that the most objective way to figure
this out
is to look at places where wealth is
being built
and then extrapolate backwards to say
okay
what is it about those places that's
resulting in that wealth being built
and i think it's pretty apparent if you
start thinking about this
that there is no general answer meaning
that
depending on the field you're in there
are field specific advantages let's use
a simple historic example
if you wanted to be a big shot in the
movie industry you pretty much had to go
to hollywood
right that's just kind of that's where
movies were being made if you were to go
to
rural missouri a very low chance that
you're going to
you know have big success in the movie
industry just
isn't a movie industry there now you
might say hey well maybe rural missouri
or let's pick a better example maybe
wyoming or you know
nevada or florida or something like this
the tax rates are better
right so you know that should be good
turns out that's a small thing
the the amount of tax is small as an
impact
relative to an ecosystem that fosters
that growth right
likewise we can turn around and we can
say well if you want to be a big shot in
finance
where do you go well you probably go to
new york right
if you're saying hey you want to be
successful
in doing tech startups well you would go
to silicon valley
and obviously there's kind of global
equivalence of this right you have
places like hong kong and places like
london and so on and so forth around the
world but
in those industries there was this
microcosm
that helped to make you successful
within that space
that's a super interesting thing to
think about right what are the elements
that go into that success
sometimes it's access to capital
sometimes it's access to talent
sometimes it's the social circle that
you're exposed to
sometimes it's you know job
opportunities
etc etc right interestingly
these are typically some pretty high tax
places right so the the bias
for people watching this channel might
be hey listen you want to go to the
lowest tax place with the least
regulation
maybe the lowest cost of labor and you
know that's going to be your success
point
the evidence does not really support
that right we can generally see that
there's not a lot of wealth
being generated in africa why not really
interesting
right uh there's not a lot of wealth
being generated
in latin america proportionally why not
you know
something's going on there there's
not a lot of wealth being built in you
know southern europe
relative to northern or western europe
why not
right and of course part of that is the
starting point
right you say okay well when you're
starting with very little
then you're going to be in a different
situation than when you have a lot
but there's also just a lot of enabling
structure
around creating success and as i thought
about this
topic one of the things that came to
mind is that
depending on the level that you're at
personally in your journey
there's a very different set of
circumstances that might serve you so
let's use an example
if you're struggling to just get by then
the stress
of that struggle probably hurts you more
than most other factors are going to
help you
all right so let's use a simple example
if you're saying hey listen i'm worried
that i won't be able to pay my bills
right i'm worried i might lose my job
and if i lose my job i'm not going to
you know
be able to like do anything i'm going to
be debt ridden etc etc
well that's probably a negative that's
pretty hard to counter balance
right once you move to a point where
you're like okay great i have
some savings and i have some experience
and i have some connections and i've got
a little bit of momentum
that's very different than when you're
at that starting point
and this probably explains to a large
extent why
say africa has a hard time producing a
lot of wealth right is
you simply have people who are to a
large extent
struggling with the basic necessities
when you're struggling with basic
necessities it's hard to be innovative
it's hard to work on kind of furthering
things it's also interesting
if you look statistically more unicorns
tend to come out of
unicorns are a company like startups
that gave a billion dollar valuation
per capita tend to come out of denmark
and sweden
than out of pretty much any other part
of the world and
you can say well hang on a minute aren't
these socialist type countries aren't
they high tax aren't they high
regulation
aren't they you know the wages are high
etc yeah all that is true
so what is it about that ecosystem that
works and i'm going to suggest to you
that part of it
is that people are in a position where
they can take risks and fail because
they have a social safety net that is
protecting them
that doesn't mean that it fosters very
well as you grow most of those companies
are typically going to start moving
out of those countries as they grow past
a certain point and you've seen examples
of this with companies like spotify
that end up deciding to as they build
further offices locate them outside of
that region
because the landlord tenant laws aren't
good the employment rules
don't favor that company etc but
when you're getting started having that
basic taken care of
is really important and there's
different ways that can happen that can
happen through the state that can happen
through family
that can happen at a level where you've
already got some establishment but it
would be
disingenuous not to recognize that
likewise something like taxes don't
matter too much when you're not making
money
right so whereas if you're making
a million dollars or two million dollars
a year the effect on
compounding of having 50 of that
go to taxes can be pretty substantial
right whereas if you're saying hey
listen
you're only making i don't know let's
say let's use
canada as an example your corporate tax
rate on the small business level
which is below 500 000 canadian dollars
per year
is depending on the province like 12 so
you know this isn't so bad right it's
really once you go above that 500 000
canadian dollars level that it starts to
become an issue a lot of places have
graduated tax rates
right many many examples like this where
the tax burden is not so bad on the
lower end and so what does it matter
what the top tax bracket is which is the
one we tend to focus on right
so in that sense i think it's worth
considering
the next thing that i think is worth
considering is are you in a culture
which fosters making things happen
versus are you in a culture
that fosters kind of relaxation and
leisure
and in this sense i think generally
speaking i just spent a week in italy
and you know it was great you know you
go to the italian cafe but i was
mentioning to my wife you know if i was
living in italy i would definitely take
a siesta in the afternoon
it's july it's hot in italy what are you
gonna do right it's uh
it's just hard to be productive i
remember spending a few months in bali
a couple years ago and you know we were
just talking about
it was hard to get work done because the
heat and humidity are quite oppressive
right if you're in that situation it's
gonna be
gonna be tougher for you so whereas
there's things that you may favor from a
lifestyle standpoint that seem really
great
that may not really support you that
much from a
functionality building standpoint i have
some
good clients friends who you know built
really successful businesses
who went to places like albania to build
and basically they're like hey you know
i spent the whole time
pretty much in my apartment i would go
to the grocery store in the gym and that
was it
these three places just work work work
it was very easy to do that
in this environment because there wasn't
a lot of distractions
the cost of living was low in that
particular case there were people around
who spoke some more language to them
there's
some advantages like that at the same
time if you're going to have a lot of
friction
in getting basic things done so for
example you know i'll spend a lot of
time at a computer typing and it wound
up hurting my back over time
well if i can't take care of my basic
health then
you know quickly the amount of energy
that i can dedicate
to being productive and effective
decreases
quite a bit right so what i would
propose to you
is that when you're getting started you
want to start at some place where your
base level is taken care of which is why
it's not a terrible idea to start in a
place like
london a place like the us uh you know
whether it's new york or whether it's
you know san francisco or something like
that
uh it's not a bad idea to start in a
place like netherlands
right these places when you're kind of a
solo operator
and you can gain access to some of these
services and infrastructure
and maybe you're somebody who you're
from there so as a result you have this
social safety net and you can have a
part-time job
that's very different right if you're in
a situation where it's like
imagine let's contrast these two
situations you're in germany
right and you can have a part-time job
and then you're building a side hustle
versus union bulgaria and you can have a
side hustle well the reality is that
your wages in bulgaria are probably like
700 euros a month or something like that
versus maybe
what like 3 000 euros a month and your
costs aren't proportionally higher
and as a result you're in a situation
where you're actually better off
being in say germany which is why lots
of people leave bulgaria to go to
germany
and you have more resources to dedicate
to this side hustle
okay which is important right you need
capital in order to do that
likewise your circle of friends people
who can maybe contribute the kind of
friends and family
who may throw in money is better
when you're in an environment where
people have some extra money versus
in places where people don't have some
extra money so that's also important
so giving that a general idea i'm going
to say
if you're getting started i would say
some of these kind of
what we call first world countries are
probably actually better places to start
in many regards
as you hit a certain level where you say
okay i've had some success
i'm doing you know i've got a six figure
a year business
then at that point in time i think
depending on your business
if your business is online that's quite
different than if your business is in
person
right but if you're in a situation
let's assume that you have location
independence it doesn't matter where you
are because a lot of businesses still do
right assuming that they aren't then i
would say
places that make sense to go at that
stage are places where number one have a
high degree
of expats entrepreneurs people who are
doing things builders let's call them
that they're builders
who you can be around number two it's
relatively easy to do business
and to live right living is the
convenience of living
should not be underestimated and number
three
it is going to be relatively
good infrastructure relatively low tax
basically you're able to throw what it
is that you have into there and probably
also not a place that is
uh very distracting in terms of
lifestyle so this i think is
maybe one of the good reasons why a lot
of in spite of the
you know on paper some favorable rules
you don't see a lot of great success
stories coming out of places like malta
right
in that sense what would those places be
okay
all right so i would suggest to you
that some of those places could be some
of the eastern european countries
maybe if you've relocated i've seen
quite a few people
have their success stories and they kind
of relocate there but i think that they
you only grow up to a certain point so i
think
it's a good place to go from hey i've
got some momentum but it's not that
strong
to hey listen we you know it's kind of
like a good place to go from six to
seven figures so let's call it that
okay so for example places like bulgaria
places like ukraine
ukraine maybe a little bit less because
there's some advantages to the financial
infrastructure within the eu
but you know some some countries like
that whether it's hungary
et cetera these countries though tend to
top out i find
they don't tend to support you very well
in going from
seven figures to eight figures right
that range there
maybe you're going to look at places
more like dubai you may look in the u.s
at places more like puerto rico there's
a great social circle of entrepreneurs
there
maybe you're going to look at places
like
portugal that could be an interesting
interesting way to go
maybe you're going to look at places
like if you can get in there singapore
if you're doing something that's going
to require raising capital you're
talking about
the us you're talking about london
you're talking about
maybe some of the other places i mean
depending on which market you're
appealing to
you could be in a situation where
singapore's venture capital scene might
be useful for you
you might find that china's is useful to
you again like that's going to be a
tougher one to access depending on you
know your familiarity with the region
and language and you know the different
players etc but
could be could be useful those are
places that i would
typically look all right and
yeah i i would tend to go to those
places would i go to
places like georgia i think george is a
little far out
i don't see people hanging out in
georgia and very successfully building
businesses i see them kind of like
staying at a certain level it's like
okay you can go there and you can live
inexpensively and you can keep more of
your money and you can kind of hang out
but i don't see people building there i
see quite a bit building out of malaysia
although that might be a function of the
population size and the less to do with
the percentage of the overall population
that's having some degree of success
again i think a lot of people have gone
to portugal and so i think that
entrepreneurial community is going to
foster a lot more growth out of portugal
than has happened
historically historically portugal
wasn't so great similar deal with puerto
rico
right a lot of because people have gone
to puerto rico there's an ecosystem that
now creates
uh success that wasn't there in the past
london obviously is a place that uh kind
of if you're wanting to do that jump
from
seven to eight i would say like uk
in general has been a pretty pretty good
place even though
it's caught a lot of painfulness to it
let's talk about some other industries
right if you're talking about something
like real estate well you know you want
an environment that supports
the right deals so i talked to a client
a while ago who was mentioning
you know he was in germany for a bunch
of time and you know it was really
difficult to make it work
went to australia and he's like hey it's
easy to make money in australia
australia i'm a big critique a big
critic of the ato
and you know their rules and all these
kinds of things but the truth is
if you're in the real estate game
australia has been in a boom
right that's just the way that it goes
there's easy access to financing
people understand how to do construction
and get things done and flip and all of
this
stuff that goes into being able to
carry out successful deal making similar
for certain parts of the u.s right if
you want to go and do
various different real estate deals
buying flipping et cetera
there's a big infrastructure for that
can you do the same thing in italy
not so much the capital appreciate even
though you can go and buy properties
quite cheap
the capital appreciation isn't there in
order to be able to do this
the ability to quickly go in and do
renovations and flip etc
not there same thing lots of examples
like that
so yeah i would say
netherlands is an interesting place to
start uh
just as in fact like in general these
countries that have a good safety net i
think are good places to start
now within those places i would say that
there are certain ecosystems for example
if i was in canada i would focus more on
toronto than i would
on any other city and the reason for
this
is i noticed that there's more of an
entrepreneurial culture more of a
culture of getting things done whereas
there's more of that leisure culture
that you get in places like vancouver i
love vancouver i think it's a great city
but it's less about hustle it's less
about
making things happen it's more about
lifestyle and when you want to build
something
you don't want that distraction okay so
that would be an idea
likewise if we were to go and look at
the us in general i would say that east
coast
tends to be more of that than west coast
i do see quite a bit of success that
comes out of kind of the austin texas
area so
i think that's again a great place to
maybe
go in and build things from like the if
you're american
you know and you've kind of had some
success etc you can go and plug into a
great community there
and have a bunch of success that's
probably where i would go if i was
not if i was living in the u.s or
something would be somewhere like that
maybe i would go and check out uh
someplace like puerto rico just because
the tax environment is so good but i
think it makes sense only after you
reach a certain financial level
places like florida i think the climate
just works against you which is
interestingly
it's kind of ironic because you know you
would suggest that the same would be
true in texas but i think you just built
this community that's
more uh again more like getting things
done
in there i think that again uae right
now
increasingly in particular dubai has
increasingly a community which is
really strong in that regard and
yeah then i would look at if you're able
to do it online
then it's useful to go to somewhere in
eastern europe
where you can get low taxes low costs
kind of less distractions
and just like grind it's not so good
from the ecosystem standpoint
but you can get good infrastructure so
your internet infrastructure is
fantastic
your infrastructure for hiring people is
fantastic so if you need that proximity
as power get some people in
it's good for that initial level until
you start to tap out the talent base
when you start to tap with the talent
space then you need to go somewhere
where you have
a broader talent pool and that tends to
be
maybe you can do some stuff in asia if
you're able to make
that cultural shift work for you
especially if you're somebody from that
region then you know i see
lots of success coming out of there or
alternatively maybe you end up having to
go to some other country that has a
larger population that you can tap into
and build accordingly the last thing i'm
going to mention
is there is something to be said for
going into environments
where they've exhausted ideas okay
this was a conversation i was having the
other night when i was having dinner
with somebody in italy
and native italian somebody was building
business there et cetera
and was just discussing hey listen like
there's a shortage of ideas here so if
you're the person who brings ideas
that brings opportunity i thought that
was interesting i don't have personal
experience with that
most of the italians that i know have
left italy but i do know a few people
who have come in
and really done phenomenally well in the
italian market
in part by being able to be innovative
and fast moving and
on top of it and tapping into a pretty
niche market
which would normally not be tapped into
this being said
in most cases they do that by first
leaving and then kind of passporting
back in i've seen the same thing in the
french market
people who leave the french market and
then sell back into the french market
because there's less competition i've
seen something similar with people who
are
not in the spanish market but they leave
the spanish market
in this case it's not just spain we're
talking about latin america but they're
able to capitalize on this large market
using that external
launch pad so i hope that gives some
ideas
makes uh makes things make sense for you
clearly you know beyond that i've done
the previous video where i was talking
about you know
when you start getting to past a certain
point i think it's just fairly obvious
that the value proposition of the
savings
uh by being able to you know have an
environment that's supportive
of wealth is quite different so anyway i
hope that helps
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