Exploring stereotypes about France and the French • FRANCE 24 English

FRANCE 24 English
26 Aug 202212:24

Summary

TLDRThis episode of French Connections Plus explores the stereotypes about the French, including their love for strikes, complaints, and mime artists. It discusses cultural nuances like the striped top and beret, and addresses misconceptions like poor hygiene and a nation of smokers. The show also touches on the French reputation for romance and love of food, challenging clichés while celebrating the country's unique cultural identity.

Takeaways

  • 🇫🇷 The French are often stereotyped as being frequently on strike, which is a visible part of everyday life in France.
  • 🗣️ French people are known for their propensity to complain, which is seen as a social function rather than a sign of constant negativity.
  • 🤔 The stereotype of the French being tight-lipped is contrasted with their love for conversation and debate.
  • 🎭 The mime is a peculiar French cliché that dates back to the early Greeks and Romans, and was popularized in France in the 16th century.
  • 👨‍🎨 The famous mime Marcel Marceau used his act to aid the French Resistance during World War II, highlighting the cliché's deeper historical significance.
  • 👕 The striped top, or 'marcel', is a French clothing cliché that originated in Brittany and was popularized by Coco Chanel in the 20th century.
  • 🎩 The beret is a symbol of French culture, traditionally worn by shepherds and now a fashion staple, despite not being commonly worn by modern French people.
  • 🧀 The cliché that French people never shower and rely on garlic and stinky cheese to cover body odor is outdated and not reflective of modern French hygiene.
  • 🚬 France has a reputation as a chain-smoking nation, but public policy has significantly reduced the number of smokers in recent years.
  • 💖 The French are often seen as romantic and passionate, with a cultural tradition that embraces love and seduction.
  • 🍽️ The French have a deep appreciation for food and gastronomy, which is a significant part of their cultural identity.

Q & A

  • What is the main theme of the 40th episode of French Connections Plus?

    -The main theme of the 40th episode of French Connections Plus is exploring the intricacies of life in France and tearing apart common clichés about the French.

  • What is one of the biggest clichés mentioned about the French in the episode?

    -One of the biggest clichés mentioned is that the French are always on strike.

  • How is the act of striking in France connected to another stereotype?

    -The act of striking is connected to the stereotype of the French being frequent protesters or demonstrators, often taking to the streets to defend their rights.

  • What is the cultural difference that might be misunderstood as the French complaining all the time?

    -The cultural difference is that complaining in France has a social function, similar to small talk, and is not necessarily a sign of being in a bad mood.

  • What is the historical background of the mime stereotype associated with the French?

    -The mime stereotype dates back to the early Greeks and Romans, and it was later popularized in France with the development of modern miming by Jean Gaspar de Bourrelle and performances by Marcel Marceau.

  • Why is the striped top (Breton stripe) associated with the French?

    -The striped top is associated with the French because it originally comes from the region of Brittany and was later popularized by designer Coco Chanel.

  • How did the beret become a symbol of French culture?

    -The beret became a symbol of French culture because it was traditionally worn by shepherds in the Basque Country and later adopted as part of the French military uniform and as a fashion item worldwide.

  • What is the origin of the stereotype that French people never shower?

    -The stereotype that French people never shower may have originated from the limited access to running water in the past, but it is considered outdated by most French people today.

  • How does the French smoking culture relate to their image as 'stinky' or 'garlic eaters'?

    -The French smoking culture is seen as romantic and rebellious rather than a lack of self-control. It's associated with the arts and might have contributed to the stereotype of the 'stinky' French person, along with the consumption of strong-smelling foods like garlic.

  • What is the role of the media in perpetuating stereotypes about the French?

    -The media plays a significant role in perpetuating stereotypes about the French by amplifying certain ideas and presenting them as truths, which can be difficult to shake off.

  • How do the French view the romantic clichés associated with their culture?

    -While some romantic clichés about the French, such as being passionate lovers, are seen as part of their cultural identity, others are scrutinized in the wake of social movements like #MeToo.

  • What is the French attitude towards food as portrayed in the episode?

    -The French are portrayed as having a deep appreciation and love for food, with gastronomy being an integral part of their lifestyle, which is considered a true aspect of French culture.

Outlines

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🎭 French Stereotypes: Strikes, Mime, and More

The script begins by introducing the show 'French Connections Plus', which aims to explore the nuances of life in France and challenge common clichés about the French. The host discusses the stereotype of the French being frequently on strike, highlighting the visibility of strikes due to accompanying protests. The French are also portrayed as complainers, but this is framed as a cultural difference rather than a negative trait. The conversation then shifts to the iconic French mime, tracing its history from ancient Greece and Rome to its peak in France during the 16th century. The script mentions famous mimes like Jean Gaspar de Bourrelle and Marcel Marceau, who used his art to aid the French Resistance during WWII. The discussion also touches on the striped top, a French clothing cliché that originated in Brittany and was popularized by Coco Chanel.

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🧢 The Beret and the Myth of the 'Stinky French'

This section delves into the stereotype of the French wearing berets, a hat traditionally made from wool and associated with the Basque country. It discusses the beret's history, its use by shepherds, and its adoption into the French military uniform. The script notes that despite trends, the beret remains a symbol of French elegance. It then addresses the cliché of the French not showering often, suggesting this might be linked to historical limitations in water access. The stereotype of the French being smelly due to eating garlic and stinky cheese is debunked as outdated. The conversation also touches on the French being perceived as chain smokers, a stereotype that is changing due to public policy reducing the number of smokers.

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💖 The Romantic Reputation of the French

The final paragraph discusses the positive stereotype of the French being romantic, passionate lovers. It acknowledges the French reputation for seduction and public displays of affection, which are less taboo than in some cultures. The script also mentions the impact of the #MeToo movement on French flirting and chivalry. The love of food in France is highlighted, with a nod to traditional dishes like snails, frog legs, and French onion soup. The French gastronomy culture is celebrated as a way of life, and the script concludes by inviting viewers to engage with the show on social media.

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Keywords

💡Stereotypes

Stereotypes refer to widely held but oversimplified images or ideas about a particular type of person or thing. In the context of the video, stereotypes about the French are discussed, such as being always on strike or complaining frequently. The video aims to challenge these cliches and explore their origins and persistence.

💡La Greve

La Greve translates to 'the strike' in English. It is a term used in the video to describe the frequent work stoppages in France, often accompanied by public demonstrations. The video mentions how strikes are a visible part of French culture and are often associated with protests.

💡Manifestation

Manifestation refers to a public demonstration or protest. The video highlights that French people are not hesitant to take to the streets to defend their rights, which is a stereotype that is both true and exaggerated.

💡Mime

Mime is a form of silent theatrical performance in which actions and emotions are conveyed without speech. The video discusses how the mime is a peculiar French cliché, with a history dating back to ancient Greece and Rome, and its association with France due to figures like Jean Gaspar de Bourrelle and Marcel Marceau.

💡Marina

The Marina is the French term for a striped top, which is a classic French clothing cliché. The video explains that the striped top originally comes from the region of Brittany and was later popularized by Coco Chanel.

💡Beret

A beret is a soft, round, and flat-crowned hat that is often associated with the French. The video discusses how the beret is a symbol of French culture and fashion, despite not being commonly worn by modern French people.

💡Cliché

A cliché is an overused expression, idea, or object that has lost its original meaning or impact due to overuse. The video uses the term to describe common, often exaggerated, beliefs about the French, such as never showering or always eating garlic.

💡Galentri

Galentri refers to French chivalry or the practice of treating women with courtesy and respect. The video mentions that traditional French flirting and chivalry are coming under scrutiny in the wake of the #MeToo movement.

💡Gastronomy

Gastronomy is the art and science of good eating, often associated with French culture. The video emphasizes that the French have a deep appreciation for food and wine, making gastronomy a significant part of their lifestyle.

💡Coco Chanel

Coco Chanel was a French fashion designer and is mentioned in the video for her role in making the marina (striped top) fashionable. Her influence on French fashion and the marina as a staple in French wardrobe is highlighted.

💡Emily in Paris

Emily in Paris is a TV show mentioned in the video as an example of how stereotypes about the French are perpetuated in popular culture. The show is criticized for reinforcing clichés about French lifestyle and behavior.

Highlights

The French are often perceived as always being on strike.

Strikes in France are common and often accompanied by protests.

French people are known for their propensity to complain, which is seen as a social function rather than a sign of unhappiness.

The stereotype of the mime originates from historical French theater and was popularized by figures like Jean Gaspar de Bourrelle and Marcel Marceau.

The striped top, or 'magnet', is a French clothing cliche that became fashionable due to Coco Chanel and is now a wardrobe staple.

The beret is a symbol of French culture, despite its origins in the Basque country and being traditionally worn by shepherds.

The stereotype of French people not showering often is considered outdated and linked to historical lack of running water.

France is known for its perfume culture, which contrasts with the stereotype of body odor.

Smoking is seen as a romantic gesture in France, despite the decline in smokers due to public policy.

The number of stereotypes about the French may be due to the country's prominence in popular imagination and as a top tourist destination.

Stereotypes about the French often contain a grain of truth but are often exaggerated and perpetuated by media and popular culture.

Cultural differences can contribute to the formation of stereotypes, which can reduce complex cultures to simple ideas.

The French are often seen as romantic and passionate, with a tradition of seduction and public displays of affection.

French cuisine is a source of national pride, with a focus on gastronomy and regional specialties.

Some French culinary cliches, such as eating snails and frog legs, are true but not consumed daily.

The show invites viewers to engage by tweeting questions or reaching out on social media.

Transcripts

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hello and welcome to this 40th episode

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of french connections plus this show is

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all about exploring the intricacies of

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life here in france and tearing apart

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some of the common cliches about the

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french and there are so many stereotypes

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always fascinating frequently baffling

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france is a country that non-french

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people love to try and boil down into

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preconceived notions so what are these

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top cliches about the french and why are

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some of them so hard to wash off join us

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for this french connections plus a

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special show on french stereotypes

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we asked you for some of your favorite

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cliches about the french and boy there

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were a lot one of the biggest ones that

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kept coming up was that the french are

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always on strike at least that's what

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both stuart russell and kathy thomas

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said well la greve certainly does pepper

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everyday life here in france whether

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it's public transport ground to a halt

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air traffic controllers keeping planes

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on the ground or even your local pool

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can be shut because staff is on strike

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but i think this is such a visible

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cliche because a strike is often

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accompanied by a protest a la

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manifestation now that's another

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stereotype that's definitely a true one

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french people don't hesitate to take to

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the streets usually to defend their

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hard-earned games and this leads to

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another stereotype about the french and

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that is that we complain all the time

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now it is true that the french love to

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grumble

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but i think this is a cultural

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difference that can get lost in

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translation it's not that french people

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are in a bad mood all the time it's that

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complaining has kind of a social

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function people here don't complain so

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much about very personal things it's

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more about the strikes bureaucracy the

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government it's a conversational tick a

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way of doing small talk the way the

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british will talk about the weather it's

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easy to bond over something that's not

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personal apart from all the small talk

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the french can also be very tight-lipped

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but that's a whole different stereotype

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if you ask a foreigner to imagine a

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perfect french cliche often a peculiar

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image comes to mind a mime the funny

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thing though is if you ask french people

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many aren't even aware of the

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association

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so why the mime

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well back in the day the silent art form

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was a big deal though the french

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certainly didn't invent it in europe

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miming dates back to the early greeks

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and romans later in 15th century italy

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it was absorbed into the hugely popular

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comedia del arte

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thanks to traveling street performers it

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finally came to france in the late 16th

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century and it flourished with mime

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schools popping up around the country

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over the years the popular genre was

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sustained by a long line of chalk-faced

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frenchmen

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in the 1820s jean gaspar de burro the

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father of modern miming developed piero

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a lovable and lovesick character

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but perhaps the most famous mime in

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recent history was marcel marxo

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performances of his persona beeped the

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clown achieved international acclaim

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marxo put his mime act to heroic good

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use while working for the french

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resistance during the second world war

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and helping jewish children escape

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occupied france

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his first major performance was in front

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of 3 000 troops after the liberation of

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paris which may explain why he was such

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a big hit in the united states maxo says

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he was inspired by charlie chaplin

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meanwhile he's credited with inspiring

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his friend michael jackson and a certain

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moonwalk

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as you just saw french mimes are often

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depicted wearing a stripey top it's

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known here as a magnet and it's a real

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french clothing cliche classic the

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striped top originally comes from the

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region of brittany back in the day

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sailors le macha wore them as

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undergarments and later it was adopted

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as a uniform in the navy la marin now la

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marina went mainstream and became a

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popular garment for men women and

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children thanks to the designer coco

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chanel now she made it fashionable all

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the way back in 1916 but since then

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other designers like yves saint laurent

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or especially jean-paul gaultier have

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made the magnet a real part of their

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collections these days it's a staple

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that you'll find in many french people's

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wardrobe and that can't be said for

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another accessory that a lot of people

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associate with the french

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the beret

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soft and round like a crep warm

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waterproof and practical the beloved

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beret has become the symbol of all

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things french along with the baguette of

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course

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this quintessentially garlic hat has

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been adopted as a fashion item around

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the world from pop stars and royalty to

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bohemian hipsters and revolutionary

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fighters not to mention a certain emily

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in paris

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abroad people certainly associate the

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beret with france but do french people

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really wear them

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traditionally made out of wool the beret

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has been around since the middle ages in

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france people call it le bere basque

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from the basque country but it was

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actually shepherds in the neighboring

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bayan region who developed it

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gascon

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snug in the front flipped back tilted on

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the side there are several ways of

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donning the hat

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be it in summer fall winter or spring

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the beret is an accessory for men and

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women alike and even part of the french

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military uniform

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though it goes in and out of trendiness

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the beret remains a fashion staple and

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an eternal symbol of french elegance

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when it comes to cliches some are hard

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to wash off take for example the notion

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that french people never shower tias

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aguilar wrote to say the french eat

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garlic in bed and prefer stinky cheese

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to cover their body odor for the record

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he did say it's part of what makes them

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likable when people think of us

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frenchies a common image that comes to

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mind is the cartoon character pepe le

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pew le pew a skunk which is paradoxical

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because france is also known for its

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vibrant perfume culture well maybe that

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does make sense actually back in the day

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access to running water was limited but

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today most french people say that

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stereotype is outdated perhaps the

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stinky french person reputation is

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linked to another cliche and that is

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that france is a chain smoking nation

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now this is one of the biggest culture

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shocks for tourists when they come to

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france smoking is still associated with

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the arts and culture rather than a tacky

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lack of self-control it's seen as a

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romantic almost rebellious gesture a

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rejection of a puritan society obsessed

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with self-betterment things are changing

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though thanks to public policy the

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number of smokers has dropped

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dramatically in france but even as

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things change some stereotypes are just

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hard to stamp out

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to poke a little further into the

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seemingly bottomless pit that are french

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cliches i'm joined by lindsay tramuta

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thank you so much for being with us

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today on french connections thanks for

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having me so you are a paris-based

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journalist and author of the book the

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new parisienne which is all about

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tearing apart stereotypes it seems like

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the number of stereotypes about the

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french is a little exaggerated compared

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to the size of the country i mean if you

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compare it to neighboring countries

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germany or or spain there seems to be

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more cliches about the french why this

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obsession about the french i think first

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of all france looms large in a big way

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in

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popular imagination in fascination

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you know certainly americans have been

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coming here for generations and

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generations and it is still

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the most visited country in the world so

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you know when you when you think of it

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that way it's sort of normal that our

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attention naturally

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directs

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uh toward any sort of story or idea that

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comes out of that country so you've been

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living in paris for over 15 years now

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you're familiar with the locals what

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percentage of these stereotypes are true

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i mean i think when you talk about

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stereotypes in general there's always a

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nugget of truth i mean that's where

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they're they're coming from

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and

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ultimately when you consider that why

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stereotypes persist about anybody in

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general or any nation it's our way of

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making sense of the world it's a way of

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understanding ourselves and our nation

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in relationship to others but

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unfortunately given how tribal we are

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that can that can come with you know

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negative qualifiers and then they get

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perpetuated by popular culture media um

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you know things like war any opportunity

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that can allow these ideas to be

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amplified and considered truth and so

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it's very hard to shake them off and how

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much do you think these stereotypes are

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just cultural differences that get lost

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in translation for sure i think there's

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an element

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of of truth related to cultural

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differences but i think it is

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um often

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blown up

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in order to again to make sense of a

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people or a place

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but then it reduces them and and that's

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you know that's the big danger of of

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stereotypes and particularly the most

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pernicious of them

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uh which is that it reduces

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an entire set of people

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to a few

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half-truths or

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near truths or embellished truths and

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and that's what's so dangerous about

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stereotype and and you know you see that

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even now perpetuated with

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big television shows about you know that

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have featured france prominently emily

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in paris

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my favorite topic of conversation um

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but you see it in literature you see it

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in in politics i think you have to look

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at all ways all of the ways that people

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consume

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ideas about places and people other than

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themselves and you can find the source

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of why they endure lindsay thank you so

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much for being with us today on french

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connection thank you

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cliches aren't always negative many of

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you pointed out that france and the

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french are very romantic emma franks

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wrote france is the country of love

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while charles g said good kissers maybe

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it's not such a cliche the french do

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have the reputation of being passionate

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first-class lovers i mean just look at

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any hollywood film and it's true that we

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have a lot going for us for instance

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french has been called the language of

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love the french have a long-standing

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tradition with seduction seen as part of

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the pleasure-driven lifestyle and

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whether it's sex or pda it's just not

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that taboo here even cheating isn't as

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shunned as it is in some other countries

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having said that things like french

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flirting or chivalry galentri are coming

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under increasing scrutiny in the wake of

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the metoo movement there is one form of

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love that's not controversial however

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and that is our love of food even though

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it's true that at times we eat some

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questionable dishes for instance sylvie

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leslie said that french people eat

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snails and frog legs all the time and

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don't forget french onion soup okay they

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do eat those things some of the times

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just not every day what is true is that

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the french worship food whether it's

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wine and cheese regional specialties

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gastronomy is a real way of life and i'm

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proud to say that that cliche is one

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hundred percent true well that's all the

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time we have for today's show thanks so

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much for watching and don't forget you

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can tweet your own questions at

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fillville minnow or reach out on social

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