Are Bluetooth Headphones Safe? | Dr. Matt MacDougall & Dr. Andrew Huberman

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20 Sept 202406:11

Summary

TLDRIn this podcast transcript, a brain surgeon addresses concerns about the safety of Bluetooth headphones and their potential impact on brain health due to electromagnetic fields (EMFs). The surgeon reassures that the energy levels from Bluetooth devices are minuscule and not a cause for concern, comparing them to the omnipresent, low-level ionizing radiation from cosmic rays. He also discusses the body's natural cooling mechanisms, suggesting that any heat generated by earbuds is unlikely to pose a significant threat, thanks to the body's efficient fluid cooling system.

Takeaways

  • 🤖 The speaker, who works on the brain, discusses the safety of Bluetooth headphones in relation to electromagnetic fields (EMFs).
  • 🧠 There is evidence that strong EMFs can affect the function of neural tissue, which is electrically signaling among itself.
  • 🎧 The speaker personally uses Bluetooth headphones and is not worried about EMF fields across the skull, considering the energy levels involved to be tiny.
  • 🚫 The speaker distinguishes between Bluetooth's non-ionizing radiation and the more concerning ionizing radiation, which is not a risk from Bluetooth devices.
  • 🌐 We are constantly exposed to low levels of ionizing radiation from cosmic rays, which the body's DNA repair mechanisms are equipped to handle.
  • 💊 The speaker shares a personal anecdote about accidentally swallowing an AirPod, which serves as a cautionary tale against misusing earbuds.
  • 🔥 The speaker expresses concerns about the heat generated by earbuds and the potential impact on the cochlea and auditory mechanisms.
  • ❄️ The speaker prefers to keep the brain cool rather than hot, emphasizing the importance of temperature regulation for healthy neural tissue.
  • 🚗 Using a car analogy, the speaker explains that the body has an effective fluid cooling system to regulate heat, similar to a car's radiator.
  • 🌞 The speaker compares the heat from Bluetooth headphones to the more significant heat and UV radiation from the sun, which is a more pressing concern for health.

Q & A

  • What is the main concern regarding Bluetooth headphones and their safety?

    -The main concern is whether the electromagnetic fields (EMFs) emitted by Bluetooth headphones could potentially affect the health or function of neural tissue in the brain.

  • Do EMFs have the potential to alter the function of neural tissue?

    -There is some evidence suggesting that electromagnetic fields of sufficient strength can alter the function of neural tissue, given that neural tissue relies on electrical signaling.

  • What is the speaker's personal stance on using Bluetooth headphones?

    -The speaker uses Bluetooth headphones and is not worried about EMF fields across the skull, considering the energy levels involved to be tiny and not within the range of ionizing radiation that could cause tumors.

  • How does the speaker compare the EMF exposure from Bluetooth headphones to the natural environment?

    -The speaker indicates that we are constantly exposed to EMFs regardless of whether we use Bluetooth headphones or not, and that the natural environment, including cosmic rays, already exposes us to ionizing radiation.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the body's ability to handle EMF exposure?

    -The speaker trusts that the body has the necessary DNA repair mechanisms to deal with the constant exposure to ionizing radiation from being in the universe.

  • Why did the speaker stop using earbuds?

    -The speaker stopped using earbuds due to accidentally swallowing one and also because they tend to lose or misplace them.

  • Is heat generated by earbuds a concern for the speaker?

    -While the speaker acknowledges that some heat is generated by earbuds, they are not convinced that it is a significant concern due to the body's natural cooling systems.

  • How does the speaker feel about the heat effects of devices near the brain?

    -The speaker prefers the brain to be cold rather than hot for maintaining cell health and is not overly concerned about the heat effects of devices like Bluetooth headphones.

  • What analogy does the speaker use to explain the body's heat regulation?

    -The speaker uses the analogy of a car's fluid cooling system, explaining that the body has a similar system with blood acting as the coolant to regulate temperature.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the body's ability to handle heat from devices like Bluetooth headphones?

    -The speaker suggests that the body, with its blood flow and natural cooling mechanisms, is capable of handling and dissipating any heat generated by devices like Bluetooth headphones.

Outlines

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🎧 Concerns about Bluetooth Headphones and EMFs

The speaker, a brain surgeon, addresses concerns about the safety of Bluetooth headphones, particularly regarding electromagnetic fields (EMFs). Despite the common worry that EMFs could affect brain health, the speaker reassures that the energy levels from Bluetooth devices are minuscule and not in the range of ionizing radiation, which is more concerning. They mention that even without using Bluetooth headphones, one is still exposed to background EMFs from various sources. The speaker also shares a personal anecdote about accidentally swallowing an AirPod Pro, humorously advising against such actions. Additionally, the speaker expresses a preference for not using earbuds due to the heat they generate and the potential impact on the ears' natural ventilation.

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🌞 Sun Exposure and Body's Heat Regulation

In the second paragraph, the speaker compares the heat generated by Bluetooth headphones to the body's ability to regulate temperature, using cars' fluid cooling systems as an analogy. They explain that the body, much like a car's radiator, has an efficient system for distributing and dissipating heat through blood circulation. The speaker downplays the significance of the slight temperature changes that might occur due to headphone use, emphasizing the body's robust cooling mechanisms. They also touch on the topic of sun exposure, noting that individuals have varying levels of sensitivity to the sun's rays and that while the body can handle heat, excessive exposure to the sun's UV radiation is more concerning for DNA damage.

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Keywords

💡Bluetooth headphones

Bluetooth headphones are wireless audio devices that connect to other devices like smartphones or computers via Bluetooth technology. In the video, the speaker discusses concerns about the safety of Bluetooth headphones, particularly in relation to electromagnetic fields (EMFs). The speaker, being a brain surgeon, provides a professional perspective on the negligible impact of Bluetooth's low energy levels on brain health compared to other more significant sources of EMFs.

💡Electromagnetic fields (EMFs)

Electromagnetic fields are produced by electrical devices and can affect the behavior of electrically charged particles. In the script, EMFs are a central concern regarding the potential health risks of using Bluetooth headphones. The speaker reassures that the EMFs from Bluetooth devices are not strong enough to be a significant health concern, distinguishing them from ionizing radiation which is known to be more harmful.

💡Ionizing radiation

Ionizing radiation has enough energy to remove tightly bound electrons from atoms, potentially causing damage to biological tissues. The script contrasts the low-level EMFs from Bluetooth devices with ionizing radiation to emphasize that the energy from Bluetooth is not sufficient to cause harm. The speaker mentions that even the small amounts of ionizing radiation naturally present on Earth are managed by the body's DNA repair mechanisms.

💡Neural tissue

Neural tissue refers to the cells and structures that make up the nervous system, including the brain and nerves. The video discusses the potential impact of EMFs on neural tissue, but the speaker concludes that the energy levels from Bluetooth devices are too low to have any significant effect. This term is crucial for understanding the context of the safety discussion around Bluetooth headphones.

💡DNA repair mechanisms

DNA repair mechanisms are the processes by which cells identify and correct damage to the DNA molecules. In the script, the speaker mentions that the body has these mechanisms to deal with the constant low-level ionizing radiation from natural cosmic rays. This concept is used to reassure that the body can handle the minor EMF exposure from Bluetooth devices.

💡Heat

Heat is a form of energy transfer that can affect the temperature of objects or tissues. The speaker mentions heat as a potential concern with Bluetooth earbuds, noting that heat is not conducive to healthy neural tissue. However, they also explain that the body has efficient cooling systems, like blood circulation, to dissipate any excess heat generated by the devices.

💡Cochlea

The cochlea is a part of the inner ear that is responsible for converting sound vibrations into nerve signals that the brain can interpret. In the script, the speaker brings up the cochlea to discuss the proximity of heat-generating devices to sensitive auditory mechanisms. This term is used to highlight the importance of not damaging the delicate structures near where earbuds are placed.

💡Fluid cooling system

A fluid cooling system is a method of heat removal that uses a liquid, like the body's blood circulation, to transfer heat away from areas that generate it. The speaker uses the analogy of a car's radiator to explain how the body's blood circulation acts as a cooling system, capable of managing any minor heat generated by Bluetooth headphones.

💡Sunlight

Sunlight is the total amount of electromagnetic radiation given off by the sun, which includes both visible light and invisible forms of radiation like UV rays. The script uses sunlight as an example of a natural source of ionizing radiation that is more significant than any potential risk from Bluetooth headphones. The speaker advises protection from the sun's harmful rays but reassures that Bluetooth devices do not pose a similar risk.

💡Skin cancer

Skin cancer is a disease in which the cells of the skin grow out of control, often as a result of exposure to UV radiation from sunlight. The speaker mentions skin cancer as a comparison to the negligible risk posed by Bluetooth headphones, emphasizing that there are more pressing concerns when it comes to radiation exposure and health.

Highlights

Discussion on the safety of Bluetooth headphones and their potential impact on brain health.

Acknowledgment of electromagnetic fields (EMFs) as a real phenomenon but with low energy levels in Bluetooth devices.

Comparison of Bluetooth EMFs to ionizing radiation, emphasizing the latter's higher energy levels.

Personal use of Bluetooth headphones without concern for EMF fields.

Trust in the body's DNA repair mechanisms to handle constant exposure to low-level ionizing radiation.

Misadventure of swallowing a Bluetooth AirPod Pro and the importance of not repeating such actions.

Preference for wired headphones due to the tendency to lose Bluetooth earbuds.

Observation of heat generation from earbuds and its potential impact on the brain.

Concerns about the ventilation of the ears and the potential health effects of plugging them.

Analogy between the human body's cooling system and a car's fluid cooling system.

Explanation of how blood flow helps regulate temperature in the brain and head.

Doubts about the significance of temperature variations caused by Bluetooth headphones.

Comparison of the heat generated by Bluetooth headphones to the heat from the sun and its potential harm.

Advice on protecting skin from the sun and the importance of different levels of protection for different individuals.

Reassurance that the body can handle and dissipate heat from local sources like Bluetooth headphones.

Transcripts

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I get asked a lot about the safety or

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lack thereof of a Bluetooth headphones

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um you work on the brain you're a brain

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surgeon that's valuable real estate in

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there and you understand about

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electromagnetic fields and sure um any

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discussion about emfs immediately puts

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us in the category of uh oh like get

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their tin foil hats and yet I've been

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researching emfs for a future episode of

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the podcast sure and emfs are

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a real thing that's not a valuable

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statement everything's a real thing at

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some level even an idea but there does

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seem to be some evidence that

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electromagnetic fields of sufficient

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strength can alter the function of maybe

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the health of but the function of neural

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tissue given that neural tissue is

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electrically signaling among itself so

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um I'll just ask this in a very

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straightforward way do you use Bluetooth

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headphones or wired headphones yeah

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Bluetooth and you're not worried about

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any kind of EMF Fields across the skull

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no I mean I I think the energy levels

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involved are so tiny that uh you know

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ionizing radiation aside we're way out

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of the realm of ionizing radiation that

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people would worry about

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um you know tumor causing EMF Fields

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um even just the electromagnetic field

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itself uh as is very well described in a

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Bluetooth

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frequency range the power levels are

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tiny uh in these devices and so you know

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we are Awash in these signals whether

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you use Bluetooth headphones or not for

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that matter you're you're getting

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bombarded with ionizing radiation in a

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very tiny amount no matter where you

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live on earth unless you live under huge

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amounts of water

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um it's unavoidable and so I think you

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just have to trust that your body has

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the DNA repair mechanisms that it needs

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to deal with the constant bath of

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ionizing radiation that you're in as a

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result of being in the universe and

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exposed to cosmic rays

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in terms of electromagnetic fields there

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it's just it's uh

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you know the energy levels are way way

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out of the range where I would be

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worried about this what about heat

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um you know I don't use the earbuds any

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longer for a couple of reasons once as

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you know I take a lot of supplements and

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I reach into my left pocket once and

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swallowed a handful of supplements that

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included a Bluetooth a airpod pro

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um I knew it I swallowed it the moment

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after I

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gulped it down by the way folks please

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don't do this it was not a good idea it

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was it wasn't an idea it was a mistake

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and but I could see it on my phone as

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registering there never saw it again so

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I'm assuming it's no longer in my body

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but um uh

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anyway there's a bad joke there to be

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sure

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um but in any event I I tend to lose

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them or misplace them so that's the main

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reason but I did notice when I used them

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that there is some heat generated there

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um I also am not convinced that plugging

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your ears all day long is there's some

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ventilation through the through the

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sinus systems that include the ears so

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it sounds to me like you're not

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concerned about the use of of

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um earbuds but

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um what about heat near the brain I mean

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there's the the cochlea the auditory

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mechanisms that sit pretty close to the

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surface there

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um heat and neural tissue are not

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friends sure

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um I'd much rather get my brain cold

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than hot yeah

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um in terms of keeping the cells healthy

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and Alive

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um should we be thinking about the heat

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effects of some of these devices or

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other things is there anything we're

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overlooking well think about it this way

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the uh I use cars as an analogy a lot

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and you know mostly internal combustion

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engine cards so these analogies are

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going to start to be foreign and useless

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for another generation of people that

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grow up in the area of electric cars but

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using cars as a as a platform to talk

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about uh

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fluid cooling systems your body has a

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massive distributed fluid cooling system

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similar to a car's radiator

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uh you're pumping blood all around your

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body all the time at a very strictly

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controlled temperature

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that blood carries it's mostly water so

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it carries a huge amount of the heat

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away or cold away from any area of the

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body that's focused heating or focused

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cooling so you could put an ice cube on

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your skin until it completely melts away

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and the blood is going to bring heat

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back to that area you can put you can

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stand in the sun under

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much more scary

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heating Rays from the Sun itself that

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contain UV radiation that's that's

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definitely damaging your DNA if you're

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looking for things to be afraid of the

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sun is a good one

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now you're talking to the guy that tells

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everybody he got sunlight in their eyes

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every morning but I don't want people to

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get burned or give themselves skin

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cancer I encourage people to protect

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their skin accordingly and and different

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individuals require different levels of

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protection from the Sun sure some people

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do very well in a lot of sunshine never

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get basal cell or anything like that

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some people and it's not just people

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with very fair skin a minimum of sun

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exposure can cause some issues and here

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I'm talking about sun exposure to the

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skin of course staring at the sun is a

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bad idea I never recommend thinking

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about the sun just as a heater uh you

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know for for a moment to compare it with

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Bluetooth headphones your body is very

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capable of carrying that heat away and

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dissipating it you know via sweat

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evaporation

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or you know temperature Equalization so

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any heat that's locally generated in the

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ear

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you know one there's a pretty large bony

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barrier there but two there's a ton of

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blood flow in the scalp and in the head

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in general and definitely in the brain

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that's going to regulate that

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temperature so I think certainly there

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can be a tiny temperature variation but

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I doubt very seriously that it's enough

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to cause a significant problem

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foreign

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