The Paradox Of Female Competition
Summary
TLDRThis script delves into the nature of male and female competition, highlighting how men are overtly competitive due to reproductive needs, while women engage in subtle, covert competition, often through reputational damage. It explores the paradox of women's in-group preference, suggesting that collective action benefits all women, whereas individual competition arises in smaller social settings. The speaker challenges the conventional view of women as non-competitive, offering insights from evolutionary psychology to explain their competitive behaviors.
Takeaways
- 🏆 Men are inherently competitive due to evolutionary pressures to stand out and be noticed, which is linked to their reproductive viability.
- 🎮 The competitiveness of men is evident in various domains, including sports, video games, and the workplace, and is often overt and easily observable.
- 🤔 Contrary to common belief, women are also competitive but tend to exhibit this trait in more covert and subtle ways, particularly in intrasexual competition among themselves.
- 👥 Women's competitive strategies often involve damaging the reputation of other women to elevate their own status within social circles, which is crucial for their social bonds and alliances.
- 🤝 Women are more cooperative and collective at a macro level, showing in-group preference and supporting collective actions that benefit all women, such as breast cancer awareness and educational initiatives.
- 👩🏫 Female competition is nuanced; it can involve playing down achievements to avoid standing out and inciting a sense of equality among women, which contrasts with men's desire to be recognized for their accomplishments.
- 🧐 The paradox of female competition is that while women compete against each other at an individual level, they also show a preference for women over men in broader social contexts, possibly due to a collective understanding of shared benefits.
- 🏛 Women's concern for resources and status is rooted in their reproductive strategies, as these factors are crucial for the successful raising of offspring, which is why they may be more focused on equality in resource distribution.
- 🤔 The script suggests that women's competitive behaviors are driven by deep-seated psychological needs related to reproduction and social standing, which are different from those of men.
- 🏡 The concept of 'human doings' is used to describe men's need to be active and achieve to be noticed, while women are seen as 'human beings' whose social connections and reputations are key to their social standing.
- 🔍 The discussion highlights the complexity of gender dynamics, suggesting that competition and cooperation are not mutually exclusive and can manifest differently based on the social context and scale.
Q & A
Why do men compete according to the script?
-Men compete due to both enjoyment and necessity, stemming from reproductive needs. They need to stand out and make a presence to be noticed by women, ensuring their reproductive viability.
What is the term used in the script to describe men's competitive nature in relation to their existence?
-The term used is 'human doings,' implying that men must be active and competitive to be recognized and exist in a social and reproductive context.
Why is male competition often more noticeable than female competition?
-Male competition is more overt and observable because it involves standing out and achieving noticeable success, which is important for their reproductive success.
What does the script suggest about women's competitiveness?
-The script suggests that women are competitive but in more covert and subtle ways, often involving social and reputational strategies rather than direct competition.
How does the script describe the difference between men's and women's competitive strategies?
-Men are described as overtly competitive, seeking to stand out, while women are covert, engaging in more subtle forms of competition such as reputational damage or playing down their achievements.
What is 'reputational damage' as mentioned in the script?
-Reputational damage refers to the act of lowering another woman's social status by spreading negative information about her, which can affect her social alliances and desirability.
Why might a woman play down her achievements according to the script?
-A woman might play down her achievements to avoid standing out too much and to prevent creating inequality among women, which can lead to social tension and a desire to tear her down.
What is the paradox of female competition discussed in the script?
-The paradox is that while women compete against each other at an individual level, they also show a preference for women over men at a collective or group level, suggesting a collective support for women's interests.
How does the script explain women's in-group preference?
-The script explains that at a collective level, women benefit from supporting each other because it leads to an equal distribution of resources and opportunities, which is advantageous for all women.
What is the script's perspective on the effectiveness of collective action by women?
-The script suggests that collective action by women has been highly effective, leading to significant achievements and improvements in women's status and resources, unlike attempts by men to organize along male identity.
How does the script address the seeming contradiction between women's individual competition and collective support?
-The script proposes that at an individual level, competition is driven by resource concerns and status, while at a collective level, cooperation benefits all women by ensuring equal access to resources and opportunities.
Outlines
🏆 Male Competition and Reproductive Needs
The first paragraph discusses the competitive nature of men, highlighting that competition is deeply rooted in men's desire to stand out and be noticed by women for reproductive viability. It contrasts the overt competitiveness of men with the covert strategies of women, suggesting that women are competitive in subtler ways, often through social and reputational means. The paragraph also touches on the idea that men are seen as 'human doings', needing to prove their worth through actions, while women are considered 'human beings' with different reproductive strategies.
👭 Female Competition: Covert and Social
This paragraph delves into the covert nature of female competition, suggesting that women compete by damaging the reputations of other women to elevate their own status. It explains that women are more concerned with social bonds and alliances, and by lowering another woman's reputation, they can enhance their own social standing. The paragraph provides an example of how a woman might subtly express concern for a friend while simultaneously spreading damaging information about her, thus engaging in intrasexual competition.
🤔 The Paradox of Female In-Group Preference
The third paragraph explores the paradox of female competition, where women compete against each other at an individual level but also show a preference for women over men in a collective sense. It discusses studies that suggest women have an in-group preference and questions how this can be reconciled with their competitive behaviors. The paragraph speculates on the psychological and evolutionary reasons behind this paradox, suggesting that at a macro level, women may cooperate to ensure equal distribution of resources and status.
🌐 Collective Action and the Macroscopic View of Female Competition
The final paragraph addresses the seeming contradiction between women's in-group preference at a collective level and their competitive behaviors at an individual level. It argues that at a macroscopic level, women benefit from collective action, which can lead to advancements in areas such as health awareness and educational opportunities. The paragraph suggests that this collective benefit outweighs individual competition, thus resolving the paradox. It also contrasts the success of women's collective initiatives with the failure of similar attempts by men, attributing the difference to the reproductive value placed on women.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Competition
💡Reproductive Needs
💡Covert Competition
💡Reputational Damage
💡Intrasex Competition
💡Collectivistic
💡Intersexual Competition
💡Resource Distribution
💡In-Group Preference
💡Paradox
💡Evolutionary Psychology
Highlights
Men are inherently competitive due to their reproductive needs, aiming to stand out and make a presence for women to notice them.
The term 'men' or 'human doings' reflects the societal expectation for men to constantly prove their worth through actions.
Female competition is often covert and subtle, contrasting with the overt nature of male competition.
Evolutionary psychology suggests that women are competitive, but in less obvious ways.
Women's competitive strategies often involve damaging the reputation of other women to elevate their own status.
Intrasexual competition among women focuses on dragging others down rather than standing out.
Reputational damage is a common tactic in female competition, where women subtly tarnish the image of their peers.
Women are more concerned with resource distribution and equality among themselves due to their biological and reproductive needs.
Female competition paradoxically involves both tearing each other down and showing a preference for women over men in collective settings.
Collective action by women benefits all women, as seen in initiatives like breast cancer awareness and educational boosts.
The paradox of female competition can be resolved by understanding the difference between individual and collective levels of interaction.
Women's in-group preference is beneficial at a macroscopic level, where individual differences are less relevant.
At the individual level, women may engage in competitive behaviors to maintain a level playing field among their peers.
The speaker speculates on the psychological and perceptual factors that contribute to the seeming contradiction in female competition.
The paradox is not a direct focus in academic circles, and the speaker offers a unique perspective on this social dynamic.
The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding the nuances of competition among women in both small and large groups.
The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to engage with the content and support the channel.
Transcripts
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it's absolutely no secret that men
compete and are competitive men compete
in athletic competitions they compete in
video games and they compete in the
workplace as well
one could say that men enjoy competing
on the one hand but also for lack of a
better option they're forced to compete
because male competition is ultimately
derivative of reproductive needs men
need to stand out they need to make a
presence for themselves so someone I
women notice them otherwise they're not
reproductively viable otherwise they are
not apparent as beans or rather as
doings because if you're not doing
something as a man you basically don't
exist hence the term men or human doings
and women are human beings but yes men
are very competitive and in addition to
that male competition is very obvious
even to the most casual of observers is
why people routinely people not in the
know people who don't care about these
topics will still be able to observe and
state that men are competitive to the
point where they will also state that
men are more competitive than women it's
obvious you can just see it it's overt
so no mystery there matter competitive
everyone acknowledges it and it's pretty
obvious but what about women women it is
purported are not competitive women it
is believed
are cooperative and social and they
don't like competition well not so fast
there
there has been a growing body of
literature in Psychology specifically
evolutionary psychology that is in fact
uncovered that women in reality are
competitive they are just not
competitive in obvious ways and this is
a recurrent theme if you think about it
that many of the differences between men
and women besides the obvious physical
biological differences are themes of
covert versus overt I women are covert
in what they do so it's not obvious to
the Casual Observer what it is they're
up to versus men who are very overt in
what they do whether it's competition or
otherwise now as I stated prior it's
kind of obvious why men need to stand
out men are human doings and if you're
not doing something you're not signing
out I you do in order to compete in
order that you might be able to
reproduce at some point in time the
future at least technically that's how
it works as a rule but as women are
human beings and not human doings their
deeds are a lot less relevant although
it depends on the type of deed
admittedly when it comes to reproductive
success a woman can simply look good
smile be relatively nice and that's more
than sufficient no one's expecting of
her that she earned a ton of money that
she achieves status on her own men as
rules simply don't care about that
nearly as much as women do and so
women's reproductive strategies are
quite different obviously and due to
obvious biological differences and needs
it makes sense so how do women compete
well typically they compete in a covert
subtler fashion and the competition is a
lot less about standing out and beating
other people but rather to be perfectly
blunt dragging other people specifically
other women down so specifically right
now we're talking about intro sexual
competition so competition between women
as opposed to intersexual competition
competition between the Sexes and women
of course engage in competition but it's
just not the same type of competition so
reputational damage is a very common one
you might have heard about this by now
it's pretty common knowledge in the
manosphere I would imagine though given
what the manosphere has become maybe
it's not maybe they don't even care
about that but yes reputational damage
how does a woman compete against another
woman she elevates herself by lowering
the relative status of the woman the
eyes of the many not just of men but in
the eyes of other women because women
are very dependent on social connections
and social bonds and social alliances if
you lower or damage the reputation of
Another Woman She's going to be seen in
the eyes of many people as lessers
Unworthy of social Association not just
by men although that's obviously a quote
unquote positive effect for the woman in
question who's engaging in this Behavior
but also for female friends who are
potential allies and people who might be
able to help her out with things now as
I've intimated female competition is
more subtle it's more covert so what
would a woman do in order to damage the
reputation of a fellow female well
sometimes it's pretty intricate so think
about an example such as the following
one where ostensibly the woman is
expressing concern for her friend she
might say something like Jill's been
sleeping around a lot of guys and I'm
really worried about it I'm worried that
she might end up hurting herself and she
might not be able to cope with that I'm
really worried about her so this woman
in this example makes it public
knowledge that Jill is engaging in lots
of copulation with many different
partners thus ruining her reputation
subtly because people are now aware that
she's engaged in this type of behavior
but on the other hand it seems like
she's concerned I'm so worried about
Jill she's such a good friend
I'm worried that she's going to
emotionally damage herself she shouldn't
be sleeping with those 20 guys in one
month or what have you now sometimes
this can just be dramatic confection
that does happen
and many people point this out I'm not
the first one but it's really difficult
to disprove your body count right it's
difficult to prove in public that look
you didn't actually have sex with 20
different guys in one month so that's
one way in which they do these sorts of
things and another way women compete in
terms of intersectional competition
isn't how they attempt to appear demure
and not stick out very much because one
thing we'll get into it a bit women
don't like is inequality amongst women
so a woman who does really well in
academic environment will play down her
achievements frequently certainly more
frequently than men who she doesn't want
to stand out there's nothing to be
gained again standing out for a man at
least a positive sense in terms of
achievement accomplishment etc etc
that's good people look up to him even
other men will look up to him that John
did a really good job on that report I
wish we had more colleagues like him at
work but with women it's a little bit
different because when women Peak above
the Horizon amongst each other there's
almost an instinct to tear them down and
to bring them back to Baseline because
this all goes back to the sense of
resource concern women are far more
concerned with resources than men are
yes men obviously are conservative
resources in the sense of they want to
acquire resources they need to in order
to be reproductively effective in most
cases but
it's not a deep-seated psychological
need I mean why are women in terms of
reproduction so obsessed with finances
and Status there's a reason the know
instinctively they need resources for
the raising and rearing of Offspring and
the problem in say an ancestral
environment at least hypothetically is
that there might not be enough resources
to go around so intra-sexual competition
ensues and they need to make sure that
the other women are getting as many
resources as they are or at the very
least the resources are being
distributed equally and this is probably
ultimately the reason why for example
women don't like women bosses because a
women Boss by definition is a woman with
more Power Authority status and
consequently resources compare to her
female underlings notice women don't
have an issue with mailboxes because
that's actually seen as a positive thing
at least on sun level because men are
meant to stand out with their resources
to show off their status derived Goods
to women but no such benefit exists in
the case of women women don't benefit
from doing that either with regards to
men that they might be interested in or
their quote unquote female friends and
allies so women are very competitive
between each other in different ways
than men are it's all about keeping the
playing field level it's all about
sutley if need be ruining the
reputations of others and dragging women
either back to baseline or below
Baseline and usually that's how women
compete there are other examples but
those are some of the most outstanding
ones but here's where we encounter this
Paradox right the Paradox of female
competition now there was one study 2004
Rutgers I think talked about this a
number of times on the channel years ago
that talks about female in group
preference now I think there are a few
studies of replicated since but it seems
kind of obvious anecdotally as well so
there is some decent evidence for it
women have an in-group preference and
Men also prefer women over other men
that's the Paradox here that we're
trying to unravel and solve on the one
hand women compete against each other
they tear each other down they tend to
strive to damage each other's
reputations in certain social contexts
but they also prefer women over men as
quote unquote human beings as as persons
as it were
how does one explain this how does one
resolved this well I think it comes down
to something
not so subtle the question of female
competition intersexual competition
is one of individual competition when
you de-individuate groups
and they become sprawling masses you're
no longer in direct competition with
them so if you're talking about a
population of 10 million it does Jane no
good to say that Jill has copulated with
20 men in one month what benefit does
she have from it nobody knows who Jill
is in this case it's just a bunch of
statistics
that's useful of course in an intimate
ancestral setting with a few dozen
individuals because everyone presumably
would know the equivalent of Jill and
what she's been doing and she is then
effectively drive through the mud
whether or not she's actually the
perpetrator of 20 acts of copulation
with different men or not but at the
macro scale it's kind of useless
so this is hypothetical now and
speculative because Frankly Speaking no
one has really researched this as a
contrast so I have to engage my own
Noggin here but what I think has
happened is at the individual level
women could be quite competitive like I
said it's all about quote unquote
equality and keeping the playing field
level for women they're very concerned
about status this has been replicated in
a lot of studies they're much more
worried about other women getting nicer
cars nicer homes whatever because that
corresponds to status and then they
worry about that very very concerned
about this stuff and they engage in
these types of behaviors reputational
damage they tend to be like I said
demure and try to play down their
achievements because they do not want to
be overly apparent in how they stand out
and it makes perfect sense but what
happens when you de-individuate women
well you get a whole different story for
a number of reasons one reason as I just
mentioned is it doesn't serve any
interest if you are reputationally
damaging an individual woman in a group
of millions or tens of millions of women
nobody cares but also going back to the
point of quality we all know that women
on average are more collectivistic than
men and they're more concerned with
quote unquote equality than them this
makes sense because all things being
equal and egalitarian society one would
think is more likely to have an equal
distribution of resources
where nobody really stands out but
nobody Falls below the Baseline either
and that ultimately is probably a better
scenario for most women which is why
they tend to be more collectivistic it
all goes back to reproductive drives
needs and requirements so
at the collective level
or with individuals they don't know it's
very different
at the collective level the game is we
need to keep a Level Playing Field in
general
and what happens then as a result is a
kind of unilateral support for women so
think about all the things that have
happened throughout the 20th century
that were spearheaded by women's
initiatives collectively as a group
versus basically nothing
and I do mean nothing by way of
comparison for men every attempt to
organize men along the lines of male
identity has essentially failed there
have been a few futile attempts fathers
rights groups etc etc but they all
flounder spectacularly because nobody
cares men are quote unquote less
valuable than women are in a
reproductive sense you know sperm cheap
eggs expensive everything's derived from
that there you go but think of all the
things that women have collectively
achieved now I'm not saying the achieves
on their own men granted them these
things by bending the knee to the whims
and wishes of women collectively but now
the National Organization of Women an
organization that organizes itself along
the lines of female identity and female
interest breast cancer awareness there's
no such thing as prostate cancer whereas
at least not in popular media and
culture sure you might see an ad here
and there you might hear something about
oh urologists urge you to get your
prostate checked out every now and then
especially as you get older but nothing
and I do nothing along the lines of
breast cancer awareness think about
marathons Run for the sake of women's
breast cancer Etc et cetera so all these
things and all these forces converging
on propping up women making sure they
get the best deal possible collectively
why because every woman in that scenario
benefits
not the individual level in an office
setting with a colleague or a female
boss it's very different
or a neighborhood where Jane likes Bob
but Jill is screwing around with Bob and
Bob likes Jill but Bob doesn't know
about Jill's Cardinal activity he's very
different in that case Jane benefits
from knocking down Jill a Peg and it
might actually make her more appealing
to Bob because Bob might find out oh wow
she's been sleeping around a lot and I
thought we were an exclusive thing very
different so the Paradox can be resolved
in the sense that collectively and
macroscopically we're talking about
Nations now it doesn't make any sense
for women to not cooperate because
whether women overtly support something
like now or breast cancer awareness or
any of the other dozens of things that
have been implemented for the sake of
women better scholarships educational
boosts etc etc every female in that
setting benefits there doesn't need to
be a competition there because the goods
and the benefits have been collectivized
universally on every level for all of
womankind
and therefore no woman loses out hence
female ingrue preference it is
exclusively beneficial at the
macroscopic and de-individuated level
for women at the individual level in a
neighborhood in an office in ancestral
Community it's very different because
then differences in resource
availability and so on and so forth can
lead to starkly different outcomes which
will affect individual women in those
smaller settings women on some
extinctional level understand that by
engaging Collective action every one of
them benefits no one really loses out
but then on the more microscopic level
they also instinctively realize that
that's not the case and a lot of it just
comes down to psychology perception and
what have you like Susie down the block
her husband earns three hundred thousand
dollars more than Mary's husband and he
also has a nicer house and car and they
go on more holidays than she does that's
a perception thing Susie's quality of
life in this case might not actually be
bad at all might be fantastic maybe
Iran's been known as 400 000 it's just
that
the other husband of The Other Woman
earns in this case seven hundred
thousand so a lot of the subjectivity
comes into play perception
but it needed to be an actual Paradox or
contradiction between women's in-group
preference collectively as a group when
everyone is de-individuated versus the
individual situation smaller settings
where the kind of female competition I
talked about really comes to the fore
and it becomes quite pronounced at times
and this is something that as far as I'm
aware never has been directly addressed
in academic circles namely the seeming
contradiction why women favor each other
and engage in in-group preference when
it comes to large groups but on the
individual level rarely display this at
all this is my attempt to solve this
problem this is my whack at it again I'm
not a professional academic and some of
this is speculative make of that what
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