Joker 2 Ending Leaks & It's Insane

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26 Sept 202411:26

Summary

TLDRThe script discusses the leaked ending of 'Joker 2', revealing Arthur Fleck's death and the emergence of a new, 'real' Joker. It explores themes of identity, symbology, and the character's impact on Gotham. The video also speculates on connections to the established Batman universe and the potential for a third film, raising questions about continuity and the legacy of the Joker character.

Takeaways

  • 🃏 The Joker's ending has leaked, causing significant online discussion and speculation.
  • 🎭 Director Todd Phillips has hinted that Arthur Fleck might not be the canonical Joker from the comics.
  • 🔍 The script suggests Arthur Fleck dies, reinforcing the idea that he is not the iconic Joker character.
  • 💔 Harley's relationship with Arthur is revealed to be based on a misunderstanding, as she only loved the 'Joker' persona, not Arthur.
  • 🗡️ A new character emerges as the 'real' Joker, killing Arthur and carving a smile into his face, mirroring the Heath Ledger's Joker.
  • 👨‍⚖️ Harvey D. is introduced as the district attorney seeking the death penalty for Arthur, setting up a potential Two-Face storyline.
  • 💥 A bomb explosion in the courthouse leads to Arthur's escape and Harvey's disfigurement, hinting at a transformation into Two-Face.
  • 🏥 Arthur is taken to Arkham Asylum, where he is visited by a character who stabs him, leading to his death.
  • 🎵 Lady Gaga's song 'Life of Sue' plays as Arthur dies, which has been previously promoted in relation to the film.
  • 🕵️‍♂️ There are rumors of attempts to connect this film's universe to Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark Knight', but these seem unlikely given the differences in tone and narrative.

Q & A

  • What is the controversy surrounding the ending of the Joker film?

    -The controversy is that the ending suggests Arthur Fleck, the main character, is not the iconic Joker but rather a symbol for anarchy and mayhem in Gotham.

  • What did Todd Phillips, the director, previously suggest about Arthur Fleck's character?

    -Todd Phillips had mentioned that Arthur Fleck might not be the Joker as traditionally portrayed in the comics, which adds to the confusion about the character's true identity.

  • What is the significance of Arthur Fleck's death in the film?

    -Arthur Fleck's death confirms that he is not the Joker, and it is a twist that challenges the audience's expectations about the character's role and legacy.

  • How does the character of Harley Quinn relate to Arthur Fleck in the film?

    -Harley Quinn does not truly love Arthur and eventually turns him over to the police, realizing he is not the Joker she was interested in.

  • What is the role of the character who claims to be the 'real' Joker in the film?

    -The 'real' Joker kills Arthur, carving a smile into his face, which suggests a takeover of the Joker persona and a rejection of Arthur's version of the character.

  • What is the significance of the bomb explosion in the courthouse?

    -The bomb explosion during Arthur's trial is a pivotal moment that leads to Arthur's escape and further chaos, symbolizing the anarchy he has come to represent.

  • How does the character of Harvey D become a significant antagonist in the film?

    -Harvey D, as the district attorney, seeks the death penalty for Arthur and becomes the main antagonist during the trial, eventually suffering facial damage that hints at his transformation into Two-Face.

  • What is the connection between the Joker film and the Batman universe as suggested by the script?

    -The script suggests a connection by having events that could potentially align with the Batman universe, such as the death of the Waynes and the setup of villains before Batman's emergence.

  • What is the role of Bruce Wayne in the context of the Joker film?

    -Bruce Wayne is positioned as a young character who is beginning his journey into understanding crime and the criminal mind, setting the stage for his future as Batman.

  • What is the significance of the song 'Life of My Life' by Lady Gaga in the film?

    -The song plays as Arthur Fleck dies, symbolizing the end of his life and the persona he had come to represent, adding emotional depth to the scene.

  • What are the implications of the ending for a potential sequel?

    -Given Arthur's death, it seems unlikely that a direct sequel would be made, but the ending leaves room for a new interpretation of the Joker character in a potential third film.

Outlines

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🃏 Joker's Fate and Controversy

The script discusses the leaked ending of the Joker movie sequel, sparking online debates. It mentions director Todd Phillips' previous statements about Arthur Fleck's character not necessarily being the Joker from the comics. The script outlines Arthur's death, suggesting he is not the iconic Joker, and the possibility of a new Joker emerging. It also touches on the character Harley Quinn's disillusionment with Arthur and her betrayal. The narrative includes elements of anarchy and destruction in Gotham City, with Arthur becoming a symbol for these actions. The script also speculates on the potential connection to an established Batman Universe, despite the director's earlier comments about a sequel being unlikely.

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💥 Courtroom Bombing and Harvey's Demise

This paragraph delves into a dramatic courtroom scene where a bomb explosion leads to chaos. Arthur Fleck, believed to be the Joker, escapes, while Harvey Dent, who is disfigured in the blast, appears to be on a path to becoming Two-Face. The script speculates on the timeline and continuity with the Batman Universe, noting the potential for these events to occur before Batman's emergence. It also discusses the character development of Bruce Wayne and the impact of the Joker's supporters on his family's tragic death. The narrative concludes with Arthur's capture and a visitor who is anticipated to be Lee, but the paragraph ends with a cliffhanger, leaving the visitor's identity unknown.

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🗡 Arthur's Tragic End and The New Joker

The final paragraph reveals Arthur's tragic end in Arkham, where an inmate, possibly the real Joker, stabs him and leaves him to bleed out. The scene is reminiscent of Heath Ledger's Joker, with the inmate carving a smile into Arthur's face. The script also discusses the musical element of the film, with Lady Gaga's song 'Life of Sue' playing as Arthur dies. There is speculation about a potential connection to Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark Knight,' although the script suggests this might be a fan theory rather than an official narrative direction. The paragraph ends with the suggestion that the film series might continue with a new Joker character, drawing parallels to other film franchises like the MCU's Captain America.

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Keywords

💡Arthur Fleck

Arthur Fleck is the main character of the Joker films, portrayed as a mentally ill man who becomes a symbol of chaos and anarchy in Gotham City. In this video script, his identity as 'the Joker' is questioned and ultimately debunked, as the leaks reveal that he is not the 'real' Joker, adding complexity to the character's role in the Joker film series.

💡Joker Persona

The Joker Persona refers to the iconic identity of the Joker, a chaotic villain who challenges societal norms and embraces anarchy. In the script, it is suggested that Arthur Fleck does not fully embody this persona, as his motivations are more about personal grievances and social inequalities than embracing the Joker’s philosophy. This separation between Arthur and the Joker persona is a major theme in the leaks.

💡Harley Quinn

Harley Quinn is a significant character in the Joker's lore, traditionally known as his love interest and accomplice. However, in this film leak, Harley Quinn realizes that Arthur Fleck is not the real Joker and breaks up with him, rejecting him after realizing he doesn't represent the Joker persona she idolizes.

💡Death Penalty

The death penalty is the sentence Arthur Fleck faces at the end of the leaked plot, marking the culmination of his crimes and signaling the end of his journey as a false Joker. This punishment is imposed by Harvey Dent, Gotham's district attorney, reinforcing the theme of justice and consequence in the story.

💡Harvey Dent

Harvey Dent is introduced in the leaked script as the district attorney seeking the death penalty for Arthur Fleck. His character is a familiar figure in Batman lore, known for eventually becoming the villain Two-Face. The script hints at his transformation, with an explosion causing facial damage, setting up his future role as Two-Face.

💡Symbolism

Symbolism plays a crucial role in the film, especially in how Arthur Fleck's Joker persona is perceived by Gotham's citizens. Despite not being the 'real' Joker, Arthur becomes a symbol of anarchy and resistance against societal injustices. The script explores how symbols can transcend the individual behind them and ignite larger movements.

💡Anarchy and Chaos

Anarchy and chaos are central themes in the Joker series, representing the breakdown of societal order. Arthur Fleck, through his Joker persona, unintentionally becomes a symbol of chaos in Gotham, inspiring riots and violence, even though his initial motivations were personal and not about causing widespread destruction.

💡Heath Ledger Joker

The mention of the Heath Ledger Joker is significant as it links Arthur's story to the legacy of the Joker character from Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark Knight.' In the leak, the real Joker carves a smile into Arthur's face in a manner reminiscent of Ledger's portrayal, suggesting a continuity or homage to past iterations of the character.

💡Arkham Asylum

Arkham Asylum is a mental institution in Gotham City where many of Batman's enemies, including the Joker, are imprisoned. In the leaked ending, Arthur Fleck is captured and taken to Arkham Asylum, reinforcing the notion that his story is intertwined with the city's criminal underworld and its darkest characters.

💡Dark Knight Connection

The Dark Knight connection mentioned in the leak refers to rumors that the film may be attempting to tie into the universe of Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy. This idea is controversial among fans, as it raises questions about timeline inconsistencies and whether the two narratives can cohesively fit together.

Highlights

The Joker movie ending has leaked, causing online turmoil and mixed reactions.

Director Todd Phillips has suggested that Arthur Fleck isn't necessarily the Joker.

The leaked ending suggests Arthur Fleck dies, confirming he's not the Joker.

Arthur Fleck becomes a symbol for anarchy and mayhem in Gotham.

Harley Quinn doesn't truly love Arthur and turns him over to the police.

Arthur's clown persona is not his original intention but becomes a symbol.

The real Joker kills Arthur, carving a smile into his face similar to Heath Ledger's Joker.

Harvey D. is the district attorney and seeks the death penalty for Arthur.

A bomb explosion in the courthouse leads to Harvey's face being damaged, hinting at Two-Face.

The film connects to the Batman universe with the Waynes' murder and Bruce's presence.

Arthur is taken to Arkham Asylum after the explosion.

An inmate stabs Arthur, laughing like the Joker and carving a smile into his own face.

The film's soundtrack features 'Life of My Life' by Lady Gaga.

There are rumors of an attempt to connect the film to Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark Knight'.

The timeline of the film is set in the late '80s, leaving room for a Batman universe connection.

The possibility of a third film is discussed, potentially featuring a new Joker.

The theory of the film being connected to 'The Dark Knight' is considered unlikely.

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what's up everyone so it seems the Joker

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2 ending has leaked

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online earlier in the morning and lots

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of people do not know what to think to

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say or to even acknowledge what they

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have read now I'll say

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this so far there's lots of turmoil

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online based on people saying what is

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Todd Phillips the director of the first

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film and the second film thinking when

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it comes to trying to um make this the

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path they choose for the Joker Arthur

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Fleck character now I'll say this I'm

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intrigued but even I said it myself in

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my head reading off the leaks and I will

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post some imagery of the leaks as well

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and I'll actually have the

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link um but I I thought to

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this and I was like okay so I mean we we

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had some confirmations before from Todd

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Phillips stating that Arthur Fleck isn't

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necessarily the Joker or not The Joker

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you actually want reflected from the

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comics but this is just taking it to a

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whole another level and again trying to

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connect this to to an possibly at least

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based on rumors or assumptions trying to

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connect this to to a already established

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Batman

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Universe I just I don't understand you

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know even I'm

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confused but let's actually start

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reading what is being stated

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um Arthur Fleck dies at the end so it's

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confirmed he's not the Joker which is

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kind of like I I thought to it myself I

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mean I know Todd Phillips stated that

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joker 3 might not happen even though yes

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he has said it with the first film that

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you can't possibly see a sequel

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happening but of course we got a sequel

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but it's like Joker or should I say

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Arthur is facing the death penalty

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penalty after what was um previously

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happening in the first film with you

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know the murders and all the stuff has

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happened with the riots killings in his

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name so it's like they they turned him

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into a type of symbol to cause Anarchy

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and Mayhem and destruction upon Gotham

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so it's like take that all into account

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this person has to be um dealt with now

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let's keep reading also Harley doesn't

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really love him and breaks up with him

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and gives him to the police cuz she

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understood he's not the Joker but just

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Arthur and she only was interested in

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Joker thing so basically

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um what I don't understand and this will

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make more sense later on but what I

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don't understand is so basically I mean

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Arthur never

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really never really um cared about the

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Joker Persona he was just trying to make

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a statement about the you know

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inequality and and harsh treatment of of

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godam citizens by the government

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authorities and all that stuff and how

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it was reflecting off of his life and

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his

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hardships but the whole clown thing was

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not

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really his thing until it turned into a

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symbol and I guess Harley had this false

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sense of of this man being a um type of

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Godlike figure or or a person for um I

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don't really know how to explain it like

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never meet your Heroes it's basically um

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how I can sum it up as so basically like

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like um syndrome and Incredibles how you

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know he might mention incredible and

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then all this stuff happened so

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basically like this isn't the person who

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I thought they were based on the

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interactions with

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them but let's okay let's keep reading

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um the real Joker kills Arthur while

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Arthur is dying he carves a smile into

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his face just like Heath Ledger Joker so

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basically the real Joker comes out of

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nowhere and kills him where it's like I

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guess you can see Arthur as the false

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Joker Joker

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persona but then it's like how can that

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really be a thing cuz he's the one that

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really um created that type of of of

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character to begin with so this utter

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Joker taking over the Reigns or sees

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Arthur as unfit for the Joker

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mantle and to have all these adoring

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fans you know so it's like is is that

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that type of of of scenario that's

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happening but it's like another Joker

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just coming out of

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nowhere and yes this this definitely

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will confirm when we're definitely not

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getting a third um film if um Arthur

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dies in the end um Harvey so Harvey D is

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in this film Harvey is the district

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attorney and seeks the death penalty for

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Arthur he appears in a few scenes but is

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but is the main antagonist in the trial

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Harvey accuses The Joker of killing five

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people but Arthur admits that he also

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killed his mother he laughs

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uncontrollably and several people jump

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on him to beat him at that moment a bomb

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explodes in a courthouse Arthur days

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escapes and a scene shows Harvey with

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his face damage so it looks like Harvey

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is already getting that Two-Face

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treatment um something I never liked and

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I get it this is El world you know we're

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we're most likely never going to get a

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continuation especially with the Batman

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character but it's like setting up these

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villain before Batman even exists cuz we

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saw in the end of

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of of of Joker where it's like you know

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Crime Alley Martha and Thomas Wayne that

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still happened and then Bruce obviously

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standing there after his his parents

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were gunned down but this time did they

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actually

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um they they actually had it as a plot

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point in the film where it's like the

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Joker supporters you know when they were

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causing that Riot went and killed them

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so they tied it to the actual events of

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the film which was interesting I do like

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that so um and this this film takes

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place two years after that so I don't

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know what Bruce is exactly doing I'm

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pretty sure he he's starting I mean he's

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still a kid but he's starting that

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Crusade about learning all he can about

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the crime the criminal um aspect you

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know um and and mind and um all that

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stuff you know that's that's the journey

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he goes to I

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guess um let's see what else but but it

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is interesting that you know Harvey gets

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up in the end even though it's

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like well probably not even get like

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anything else from that um Arthur is

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taken to Arkham after the explosion and

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is his captured by the police therefore

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the guards tell him he has a visitor he

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believes it's Lee on his way the

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character played by Jacob Laughin and

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inmate close to Arthur tells him he's

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going to share a joke he then savagely

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stabs Arthur in the stomach leaving him

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to bleed out out as Arthur dies the

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inmate laughs like the Joker and carps

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smile into his own face similar to Heath

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Ledger so so you're telling me

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um let me go back to that previous um

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thing I read where it's like okay so the

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real Joker killed Arthur while Arthur is

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dying he carves a smile into his face so

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you're telling me um The Joker guy

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carves a smile to his face of course he

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Ledger Joker had um that thing as well

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you know the the the cut on his mouth

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but there's

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more okay um let's see so Arthur bleeds

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out car smile on his own face okay the

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camera Zooms in on Arthur's eyes as he

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loses his life and that's life sung by

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Gaga plays in the background I think I

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we have heard that in a promotional

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material where we have heard singing the

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song okay and this last thing is it's

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just a rumor but apparently this is try

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this is them trying to connect it to the

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Dark Knight so that's something that had

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me saying what I mean I I've heard

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people trying to um make the case of why

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something like the Joker can take place

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in the Batman Universe with mt Reeves

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but

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um trying to connect the Joker with the

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dark

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night that definitely is interesting I

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mean mean the timeline I I I'll say this

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the timeline isn't that off since this

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definitely takes place in what the 80s

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late 80s and if you're going by the

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actual dates of the film you know Batman

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Begins happens in

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2005 so that's not that much of of of

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space that's only what like what um that

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would be I mean I'm I'm guessing late '

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80s so again around

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like 12 to 15 years 16 17 years I don't

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know cuz the Dark Knight is 2007 so

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again I don't know if exactly what

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they're trying to go for but I'm pretty

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sure something like this would have been

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common knowledge in in um noan you know

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film Universe about you know this Joker

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guy cuz even you want to make the case

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that the other Joker was heading I mean

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what why would that the other Joker be

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hidden for so long though you know what

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I mean you know he's leser

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Joker

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and I I I don't know again this might be

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an assumption maybe this is just

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something he did that someone recognizes

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that joker doing Wing you know the

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carving of the smile and all that stuff

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but it's

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like I again I will be

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dumbfounded if they're trying to to

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connect this to um The Dark Knight where

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it's like there's there's so much stuff

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that's just inaccurate and not not

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similar at all even the death of the

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wayes where it's like Joker supporters

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and obviously in in the in the um film

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classic Joe

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Chill you know so it's like

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I yeah I I I I don't know what to say

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about this I I think the last part might

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just be someone assuming it because they

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recognize something previously um having

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the same similar um I I I guess

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theme but I don't think it's actually

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them trying to connect it to that to

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that I mean again if they want to they

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could go ahead and Recon stuff but it's

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like why you know that movie Universe

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has been over since is

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2012 and um and and going by this film

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you know I mean we're not going to get a

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third film unless you want to do like a

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the third film could be like you know

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the new Joker taking over and then doing

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all this

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you know something similar to like

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um for example I know people would say

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why bring this up but it's the same

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thing you know with the MCU and Captain

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America how um Sam Wilson is is getting

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the you know the new Captain America

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movie comes out in a few months and that

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counts as Captain America 4 so it's like

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you know you could you could do

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something like that

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right where it's like Joker 3 but with

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this new

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Joker and then some other stuff I mean I

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I don't know man I don't know you

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know I I think this is just classic um

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fandom Theory cuz I I doubt

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