UNREPENTANT - Canada's Hidden Genocide - Rev. Kevin Annett - Part 4of5
Summary
TLDRThe transcript recounts a poignant narrative of systemic injustices faced by indigenous communities, particularly focusing on the horrors of residential schools in Canada. It delves into personal experiences of abuse, the struggle for justice, and the broader societal implications of these historical wrongs. The speaker calls for accountability, the recognition of genocide, and a shift in societal values to truly address and heal from these deep wounds.
Takeaways
- 😔 The speaker felt isolated and unsupported, with even family members suggesting self-reliance without acknowledging systemic challenges.
- 😡 There is a sense of betrayal and anger towards institutions like the United Church and RCMP, which were perceived as hindering justice and not adhering to their professed principles.
- 😢 The speaker lost faith in the church due to its failure to act in accordance with its own teachings and principles, particularly regarding historical injustices against indigenous peoples.
- 🏡 The residential schools are highlighted as places of abuse and murder, with the speaker urging the church and government to acknowledge these crimes and seek justice.
- 😰 The speaker and other indigenous individuals have suffered long-term trauma and intergenerational impacts from the abuses of the residential school system.
- 🙏 There is a call for the identification and proper burial of children who died in residential schools, emphasizing the need for recognition and respect for the deceased.
- 💔 The speaker recounts personal experiences and witnesses of abuse, including sexual abuse by church officials, and the subsequent cover-ups.
- 🌎 The speaker connects the abuse of indigenous peoples to broader societal issues, including environmental destruction and the loss of cultural heritage.
- 📢 There is a plea for international pressure and recognition of the atrocities committed, suggesting measures like boycotts to force accountability.
- 🤔 The speaker questions the complicity and silence of the broader Canadian society, urging individuals to confront the truth and seek justice.
Q & A
What was the speaker's initial reaction to the challenges they faced?
-The speaker felt overwhelmed and unsupported, with a sense of being at the bottom and having no one around to help, including family.
Why did the speaker feel the United Church and the RCMP were against them?
-The speaker felt that the United Church and the RCMP were against them because they did not want certain truths about their past actions, such as the treatment of indigenous people and residential schools, to be brought to light.
What principles did the speaker expect the United Church to follow?
-The speaker expected the United Church to follow the principles of humility and justice, as stated in their mission to walk humbly and seek justice in the world.
How did the speaker's perspective on indigenous people change over time?
-Initially, the speaker had a vague and distant understanding of indigenous struggles. However, after witnessing the harsh realities and injustices faced by indigenous communities, their perspective changed to one of empathy and a desire for justice.
What was the speaker's realization about the impact of historical injustices on the present?
-The speaker realized that historical injustices, such as the abuse and murder of indigenous children in residential schools, have lasting effects on the present, leading to issues like substance abuse, suicide, and social marginalization.
Why did the speaker feel compelled to speak out about the injustices they witnessed?
-The speaker felt compelled to speak out because they believed in the principles of justice and truth, and they could not live with themselves knowing the truth and remaining silent about it.
What does the speaker suggest as a first step towards addressing the injustices of the past?
-The speaker suggests that the first step should be identifying and properly burying the remains of children who died in residential schools, and acknowledging the truth of what happened to them.
What is the speaker's view on the role of religion in the historical and ongoing injustices?
-The speaker views religion, particularly Christianity, as having been hijacked by wealthy institutions and used to justify and perpetuate injustices against indigenous people.
What does the speaker think is the responsibility of the current generation in addressing historical injustices?
-The speaker believes that the current generation has a responsibility to confront the truth of historical injustices, to hold perpetrators accountable, and to work towards justice and healing for the affected communities.
How does the speaker feel about the potential for change and healing in society?
-The speaker expresses a sense of hopelessness regarding the potential for change, given the continued power and influence of the institutions responsible for past injustices, but also a determination to keep fighting for truth and justice.
Outlines
😔 Struggles with Injustice and Betrayal
The speaker recounts a period of feeling abandoned and oppressed, with a lack of support from family and institutions like the United Church and the RCMP. They express frustration at the expectation to overcome adversity alone and their anger towards those who opposed their efforts for justice, particularly regarding historical wrongs against indigenous people. The speaker laments their lost faith in the church due to its failure to live up to its principles, as evidenced by its complicity in past injustices. They also describe their awakening to the harsh realities faced by indigenous communities, which contrasts sharply with their own affluent upbringing. The narrative includes personal experiences of abuse and the broader impact of historical trauma, leading to a crisis of faith and a quest for justice.
😢 Echoes of Residential School Horrors
This paragraph delves into the harrowing experiences of individuals who were victims of the residential school system. The speaker shares stories of suicide, abuse, and the emotional and physical torment inflicted upon children by those in positions of authority. They emphasize the lasting impact of these experiences, which have led to intergenerational trauma and a continued struggle for justice. The paragraph also touches on the systemic cover-ups and denials by the government and religious institutions, highlighting the need for accountability and the pursuit of legal action to address these historical injustices.
😡 Unearthing the Truth of Genocide
The speaker discusses the broader implications of the atrocities committed against indigenous peoples, likening the actions to genocide and emphasizing the need for international pressure and scrutiny. They recount personal experiences and witness accounts of discovering mass graves and the callous treatment of indigenous children. The paragraph underscores the importance of identifying and properly honoring the deceased, as well as the necessity for the institutions responsible to be held accountable. It also highlights the ongoing effects of these historical injustices, such as high suicide rates and social issues within indigenous communities.
😤 The Fight for Justice and Recognition
In this paragraph, the speaker passionately advocates for the need to bring the truth about residential schools and their devastating effects to light. They express frustration with the lack of legal support and the financial barriers to pursuing justice. The speaker also discusses the silencing effects of gag orders and the importance of telling one's story as part of the healing process. They call for a societal shift in acknowledging and addressing the trauma inflicted upon indigenous communities, emphasizing the need for the broader Canadian society to confront its past and present actions.
😭 The Lasting Impact on Indigenous Communities
The speaker reflects on the profound and ongoing impact of residential schools on indigenous communities, including high rates of suicide, substance abuse, and the disappearance of young women. They highlight the need for societal change and the importance of standing up against injustice. The paragraph also touches on the spiritual and moral dimensions of the struggle, with the speaker sharing their personal journey from being complicit to becoming an advocate for truth and justice. It concludes with a call for empathy and action, urging Canadians to question and confront the injustices perpetrated against indigenous peoples.
🤔 The Role of Religion and Society in Historical Injustices
In this final paragraph, the speaker critiques the role of religion and societal institutions in perpetuating historical injustices. They argue that these institutions have often served the interests of the wealthy and powerful, rather than living up to their professed moral principles. The speaker suggests that true spirituality and morality are found in solidarity with the oppressed and marginalized, echoing the teachings of Jesus as outlined in the Sermon on the Mount. They call for a reclamation of religious values to serve the poor and downtrodden, and a societal shift towards recognizing and rectifying the harms inflicted upon indigenous peoples.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Residential Schools
💡Genocide
💡Cultural Assimilation
💡Abuse
💡Impunity
💡Reconciliation
💡Indigenous Rights
💡Suicide
💡Historical Trauma
💡Justice
💡Cultural Identity
Highlights
Feeling of being at the bottom with no support from family or institutions.
Forces in the world trying to keep the individual down, including the United Church and RCMP.
Anger towards institutions for trying to suppress actions against injustices.
Loss of faith in the church for not living up to its principles.
Expectation for the church to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and seek justice.
Realization of being complicit in a culture that caused harm to indigenous people.
Shocking living conditions of indigenous people in northern BC, worse than expected.
Personal transformation from ignorance to understanding the reality of genocide.
Survivors of mass murder living in constant fear and needing to hide.
Nightmares and suicide attempts due to unbearable pain from past experiences.
Sexual and physical abuse by authority figures in residential schools.
The need for perpetrators of crimes to be brought to justice and admit their actions.
The government and churches' refusal to acknowledge the residential school genocide.
High death rates and abuse in residential schools, with many children dying.
Demand for the identification and proper burial of children who died in residential schools.
The impact of residential school abuse on the current crisis of missing and abused indigenous women.
The importance of telling the truth and forcing institutions to confront their past.
The lack of legal representation and support for indigenous people seeking justice.
The need for international pressure and awareness to bring justice for indigenous people.
The ongoing trauma and its effects on indigenous communities, including high suicide rates.
The desire to not be a 'muknek' (ghost person) and to stand up for humanity and justice.
The hijacking of Christianity by the wealthy and its misuse as a tool of oppression.
Transcripts
made me feel like I was on the bottom
and that it was no one around to help me
not even family they just stood right
back and said well this man should pull
himself up by his own bootstraps they
didn't realize that there were all these
forces in the world that were trying to
keep me down that way that the United
Church did not want that PhD produced
that the the RCMP did not want that
tribunal done and they they the more
they tried what did that do to you the
more they tried I got angry at them I
said
why what the hell right do they have to
do that to me what the hell have I done
wrong
nothing I said you lose your faith in
here here's the wrong I did the wrong I
did was I expected the church to live by
its principles that was my wrong what
were its principles it claimed to be
following the footsteps of Jesus Christ
you know to seek Dre you know they have
this great statement in the United
Church to uh to walk humbly and uh seek
Justice you know in the world well I
just expected them to do that that's
what it said on paper I just asked them
to live by their principles when it had
to do with land they had stolen from the
native people and children that they had
hurt and murdered in the residential
school I simply said do what's right and
I was told time and again that it was
wrong for me to have done that you knew
that it happened before you were well
read you realized that the last 200
years 2,000 years that happened yeah but
I was complicit in it I was part of the
culture that did it and I was blind to
it you know raised in that condition of
affluence I was uh I had an idea a I
remember thinking when I was in my 20s
oh yeah native people yeah they've been
put down I had kind of a vague idea that
they were they were on the oats and they
had been attacked and murdered on mass
and all that but it didn't enter my life
at all I mean it didn't really the only
contact i' ever had with Native people
was when I was 15 uh we went up to a
village in northern BC on an exchange
and we lived for 10 days among
Aboriginal kids up there and then they
came down into our community and hung
out with us but what I saw just blew my
mind in little community of Hazelton in
northern BC just unbelievable I didn't
think people live like that in Canada
you know live worse than you did well I
mean yeah even the poorest white person
they didn't they didn't come anywhere
near the experience of what was going on
in that Village kids running around I
mean not just uh literally without
clothes and and and dying for
malnutrition but I mean you know they'
be like uh there was a little
six-year-old girl whose dad had gone
after with an axe you know she was
carrying a Mark around on her head
because her dad had whacked at her while
she was drunk and uh that was just
accept like I mean oh yeah well it
wasn't considered um there was anything
wrong with that and I thought well um
these people I think I was scared by
that I that you know and and so when I
got older I thought well native people
are uh uh kind of an
aity I don't really want to understand
them too much I mean that was all going
on me but then I realized I had to the
more I began to work with him I had to
understand what did you come to
understand well it didn't come right
away came over
time what
came what genocide really looks like up
close what it means to be at the
receiving end of a campaign to
exterminate
you what it means to be the survivors of
a of mass
murder you go around with you feel like
you're going to die at any moment you're
going to be tortured at any moment again
so all you have to do is Hide You Got to
Hide you could identify with that oh
yeah I still have nightmares but snakes
and all the kind of things that happened
to me in school and very difficult you
know sometimes I I tried ending my life
many
times cuz I just couldn't stand through
the pain that I was going through he
took each of us in there one by
one and he had had a spend over
and Vaseline with with
him he did that to each of us three
times I remember
that to satisfy
himself to enjoy
himself on little
kids I forgot how old I
was either six seven or
eight Maybe N I
forget but I
remember I'll never
forget Mr Moore he said you know what
sis he says I can't wait to get out of
this hell hole I'm going to tell
everything and then the phone went
dead uh people at resident at CER Island
always listened to our phone calls and
censored our letter years back you know
coming in and going out so I you know
like I was afraid for him but I didn't
think it was going to be as bad as it
was it turned out as bad as it
was 2 days later we got a phone call
saying that he hung himself he committed
suicide but I never ever ever um
believed in my heart that he'd ever do
that they had them walk through the gym
while Richard was still hanging
and told them that it could happen to
them my brother died because of a cattle
prod of a shock in the cattle
prod when he was five when he was four
years old they dragged him by the hair
and they cut him they cut his skin right
off his head the pastors did that with a
whip like a horse whip it was sharp with
these little blades on
it and when I was in there I heard him
scream for help and right away there was
lot of blood on the floor and they
wouldn't they wouldn't K him to a
hospital or the nurse or nothing they
what what happened then what what
happened when when I was in there I
heard him still scream for help Rick
help they're torturing me I'm going to
die so he died right away like like that
was my only he was my
only uh he was my only bre friend and my
only brother that I always loved what
would be the final solution for you what
would uh relieve your mind or give you
well you know when you're dealing with a
crime this huge there isn't any solution
ultimately because it's not as if
something like this can be healed it's
like when you look at uh genocide being
perpetrated on one group of people it
never stays confined to that one group
it always blows back on the people per
perpetrating it and I often think about
that when I look at you know what we're
doing to the land and in the environment
I mean we we destroyed people who had
been living in harmony uh with the land
for thousands tens of thousands of years
and that can't help but affect us and
the way that we live but I think that um
something that's huge you can't just
give an apology and a bit of money it's
an insult to people who have been
sterilized and seen their friends
murdered to think that that's going to
solve anything but what will begin to
turn turn the tables on this is if the
perpetrators are brought to Justice and
are able to say yes we did these crimes
yes we did try to wipe you out to I
often know working with native people
who've been through these these death
camps um called residential schools for
them they never talk about money they
never talk about compensation you know a
lot of the Native politicians will talk
about that but the people on the ground
they keep saying over and over I just
want to face the people who did this to
me I want to tell them what I think
about them and I want them to admit what
they did to me in front of the world I
think if they did that I would forgive
them if they would just admit what they
did to us is
genocide and the government has never
ever came up and um acknowledged her
mistake of residential school and to me
that's totally wrong and the churches
are hiding behind the laws of man-made
laws and uh not not admitting their
wrongs regarding residential
school and I I feel that's cowardly
they're thinking they figured they could
get away with it oh yeah of course they
get because they were the law the church
and the government were and still are
the law uh churches are exempt from from
prosecution for these things clearly for
almost 10 years the knowledge of these
things have been out in the press the
courts have refused to prosecute the
churches over these crimes time and
again judges have said uh this is this
issue of genocide is not going to be
addressed in this court they restricted
at issues like well the children
suffered a loss in education or um you
know they were they were hit sometimes
but they they refused systematically to
uh to address the issue of murder and
genocide we know that in just the
residential schools the official death
rate given by the government themselves
was 50% and if they took a boat they
claim 100,000 children went through the
schools but that's conservative uh
because they would often grab children
in whole areas not just the
seven-year-olds and up which they had to
do under the law but three four
five-year-old kids were common in the
residential schools so if you double
their number you're probably talking a
quarter of a million children went
through the residential schools half of
them who died 100,000 children alone
just in the residential schools when you
look at the whole history of the Indian
reserves and it's got to be in the
millions if they want evidence as a
seven-year-old child I witness myself
the burial of a child and um I didn't
know what was happening at that time I
was with another person another student
and he and I asked him I said what's
Happening Here I see them digging a hole
in the um in the The Orchard and they
said they're burying another one in
65 there's a bunch of us kids playing
soccer in the back field there was a
brush of uh leaves and grass piled up
and there was a body underneath it the
one of the kids kicked the ball and he
went to get it it was quite de composed
went went to what in 1960
and I was um
I found a dead boy 1967 of in between
rth Hall and K Hall native girl she's
about 16 and I I told Jay Andrews and
Jay Andrews uh Shi me out of P went to
Theo and I believe it was a cover up and
we need those children returned home
they need to be brought back and given a
proper burial and that's really kind of
a a most basic first thing that the
churches and government need to do they
they need to identify where those bodies
are and I remember we used to go dig
Graves there and they would be kids that
came from Charles camil Indian
Hospital how they died I don't
know but I know we just dug a lot of
graves there there was a lot of Eskimo
babies buried in that burial ground
which was behind the principal's
house uh just on the the side of
the staff
Garden there was four of us that dug the
grave
um myself my brother Larry Mel paty
and Albert Cardinal when my mom was
younger she her and a friend were
instructed to go throw away this this
thing that was wrapped in a newspaper
and they were told not to look into it
but they didn't listen they unwrapped it
in it was a
fetus one particular incident was
the where nun sexually abused uh well
sexually abused a a young boy
and and as a result the nun became
pregnant and and gave birth to a baby
and um after he gave birth to the baby
this was one incident that
um they they killed the baby bab and
they had
the they had the young fell dig a grave
for the
baby another incident was a a lady
watched the witnessed a
nun in Cranbrook where gave a baby and
uh had her participate and drown the
baby in the bucket of water you know and
now become a Cornerstone of some billing
in cranbook I would say that the main a
lot one of the biggest things that we're
asking for right now is that where where
are those children buried and and how
can we get them
home I mean what is there any difference
between what happened with the Nazi
Germany and and what's happened over
here key now is to get a lot of the
stories and the documentation out into
the into the mainstream through these
kinds of documentaries and uh and just
um keeping the international pressure on
Canada I think for example you know
organizing uh a international boycott of
Canadian Goods maybe a boycott of the
2010 Olympics something like that that's
the kind of thing that's going to bring
International pressure on Canada I think
that's the only way this stuff is ever
going to come out because the the the
contradiction here is that the very
institutions that committed these crimes
are still in power you know they're all
legitimate they're protected by the law
the government the churches the RCMP you
know these are mainstream institutions
and they're not going to prosecute
themselves over this they're going to
have to be brought to some kind of
international court of justice is there
one human that could be responsible for
that could be taken to court
yeah any of the uh you know the
fiduciary officers of these
organizations the Prime Minister Canada
the heads of the United Church the
Catholic Church the Anglican Church the
superintendent of the RCMP they're all
just as culpable under the nberg laws uh
you know those precedents that say heads
of state are just as liable for the
actions of murder as are the soldiers
who pull the trigger well it isn't just
the people in the residential schools
that are liable for this but you know
these officials in the churches and
government which is probably why they've
they put so much energy into denying
this stuff um uh smearing and and uh
assassinating the character of people
like me who are trying to bring out the
truth about this and intimidating native
eyewitnesses using their own Chiefs
often to do that who's going to listen
you know who's going to stand up you
know in the court case in this country
of
ours you know minimum we need is 880,000
bucks to 800,000 bucks to start a court
case and how many
lawyers in this country of ours that's
going to stand up and fight for our just
rights there ain't
any how many uh Indian lawyers we got
have yet seen one to step up to the
plate to take the fight all the way
oh I hate doing
this you hear a lot about money you
don't hear about the actual deaths of
children and this is the issue we want
to bring out now that's being
systematically buried by the government
insurance as of canidate it's being
buried by the court process which is
accompanied by a gag order if you're a
native person and you go through the
courts one of the things that is imposed
on you is a gag order so that you can't
actually talk about the terms of your
settlement or your story and yet being
able to tell one's story is a poal to
one's healing and to being able to turn
the tables of your life with shame is an
Aboriginal people who should be carrying
the shame anymore it's we the culture
that did it who have to start carrying
that cross right on right on so one of
the ways we can do that is simply by
telling the truth and forcing the truth
out of Institutions like this one they
have to come up from behind their
lawyers and their money and their power
it's hard to uh not hear the voices not
hear the cries not hear
like they're
haunting and I pray that those little
spirits that were captured in ear like
that in pain that they'd be released I
open that window on purpose to be
released out of here you
know we've lost thousands of thousands
of children through suicide not natural
death
suicide we find them every day the week
we find them down the city of
Vancouver know if City of Vancouver is
just a small part of what goes on across
Canada and the United States because we
have a lot of our first Nations people
dying in the streets of
Seattle because before the Europeans
landed our people traveled back and
forth and so they had relatives down
there and so we had um like in Vancouver
for instance you have between 45 to
60,000 native people living in the city
of Vancouver
and you're probably finding pretty close
to 90% of them are dying on the
streets you know of drug abuse not
alcohol drug abuse how do I know that
cuz I sit on the on the board down there
with a native leaon Society that's
attached the Vancouver City
police and I asked a question one time
how many of our people die or people die
on the streets of Vancouver he said
whatever you read on the paper you can
multiply that by 10 times and just last
I year before last he had 3
65 deaths so you could figure that
out and that's a direct impact of
residential
school a friend of
ours Sylvia yellow
horse from
Alberta she died because because of
alcohol poisoning she drank so
much so I believe that she was one of
the kids that was abused by one of the
staff members or a few of the staff
members oh this this really
hurts many of our
women uh young women especially are
going missing uh because now after the
residential school abuse and everything
thing is
over uh they're treating our young women
like their
disposable um nobody seems to care when
they do go missing as far as they're
concerned it's just another dead Indian
right now uh in the downtown east side
Aboriginal people are the ones that are
getting HIV they're the ones that are
getting hepatitis C we're suffering the
most from this and we just got to stop
it somehow the only way we can stop it
is by trying to get people to care right
if you had to do it all over again Kevin
would you do it again yes absolutely
because I wouldn't have been able to
live with myself if I had have known
these things and done what I was told
which was to keep quiet about it because
you know you're an accessory to a crime
under the law if you do that for one
thing why don't Canadians have courage
Kevin why don't Canadians speak out why
don't they ask questions I don't know
why are things thrown at us that we just
accept the the native people on the
coast even have a name for whites the
mukne the ghost people ones without
substance you know I didn't want to be a
m anymore I wanted to be a human being
why did they think of us as this the
natives what did they see in us that we
didn't see they saw what we had
lost I think it would be lost you know
think of what happened in Europe you
know what happened in Europe over
centuries same kind of trauma they want
in here the religious wars the the
famines the black death the persecutions
the torture the witch hunts the mass
murder of millions of people throwing my
ancestors off their land all of the [ __ ]
that happened here happened there and so
we're all trauma victims you know those
of us who come over here we haven't fa
we not only haven't faced our trauma
when we came here but we had lost
something look what you've done to to
the First Nation people you have killed
their kids you have abused their mind
you abused their bodies
physically and spiritually you
have abused this not only the land you
have raped the land you polluted the
land you
polluted the minds of of the people the
kids you've raped the kids you killed
the
kids you look at indigenous people and
say well why would we despoil our River
why would we grab more land than we need
why would there be po people in our
midst and rich people that doesn't make
any sense I mean no no Society can
survive living like that and yet it's
the virtue in our society to operate
like that so we're crazy I mean we have
become completely insane and it comes
out of that you know that that terrible
Alliance that happened when you had this
notion that a religion called
Christendom was Superior to all others
and had to conquer the world combined
with the vested interest of a a merchant
class that wanted to conquer the world
for its own profit armed with this
religion Krishna mury who was a Hindu
writer he said a beautiful thing and
that's why I think I don't believe in
religions I believe this spirit is
shared by people all over um but he said
U God hides himself in the most broken
ones Among Us and God hides himself in
the most broken parts of ourselves
hidden in there but present like a
little seed and I'd say that our worst
experiences are a way to reveal that and
for us to find a new meaning and
strength in our life because when you
lose everything for the right reason for
a just cause or for people who can't
fight for themselves when you stand with
them and lose everything you gain
everything you lose the false things in
your life that we're so wedded to the
only thing that church did for me did to
me was say I'm sorry wrote a letter of
apology some of a [ __ ] thinks thinks
writing on paper and
seeing verbally to
me saying I'm
sorry doesn't work it makes me more
angrier to think they can give me a few
dollars
and and uh that'll make me forget no
we're not all one happy family there's
this whole world like every society for
5,000 years has rest on the suffering
and and misery and exploitation of some
group of people and you're not going to
find God up in a church somewhere you're
going to find God down there in the
garbage heap with those people that to
me is a message of
Christ so why don't we get that Kevin
because Christianity was hijacked by
wealthy institutions and the rich and
it's been their servant for centuries
when it really belongs in the hands of
the
poor all
generations will declay
[Music]
God has brought down the mighty from the
throne and has lifted up the poor God
sent away the wealthy and has filled the
Hungry with good things it's like what
you get in in the The Sermon on the
Mount blessed are the poor and woe to
the rich he says that and it's kind of
like this big reversal suddenly all the
things that the powerful the government
the corporations the churches they all
think everything's on our side we've got
the world wrapped up we can go carpet
bomb Iraq whenever we want you know we
can destroy anybody we want Suddenly
It's all rsed and those things are their
downfall and the ones who they're
bombing suddenly you
realize like Martin Luther King learned
and Gandhi learned those are the ones
with the power to change history not
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