Scott Fraser: The problem with eyewitness testimony

TED
10 Sept 201220:51

Summary

TLDRThe video recounts the story of Francisco Carrillo, wrongfully convicted of murder due to flawed eyewitness testimony. The case highlights the fallibility of human memory, especially in low-light conditions. Forensic neurophysiologist Dr. Joseph Geni explains how the brain reconstructs memories and demonstrates through scientific analysis that the lighting at the crime scene was inadequate for reliable identification. Carrillo spent 21 years in prison before being exonerated thanks to new evidence and a retrial granted by a courageous judge. The video emphasizes the need for more science-based evidence in the judicial system and caution in trusting human memory.

Takeaways

  • 🗓️ The murder took place on January 18th, 1991, in Lynwood, California, where a father was shot by a passing car while admonishing his son and friends.
  • 🔎 The police swiftly identified Francisco Carrillo as the suspect within 24 hours based on a photo array shown to a witness.
  • 👨‍⚖️ Carrillo was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment despite no weapon, vehicle, or driver being identified.
  • 🕵️‍♂️ The case highlighted the fallibility of eyewitness testimony, with over three-quarters of wrongful convictions linked to it.
  • 🧠 Human memory is prone to reconstruction, filling in gaps unconsciously with inferred or post-observation information.
  • 🌙 The murder occurred under poor lighting conditions, challenging the reliability of the teenagers' identifications.
  • 🔬 A forensic neurophysiologist was brought in to analyze the night vision and memory identification aspects of the case.
  • 📸 Actual scene reconstruction with photometers and special cameras contradicted the police report of good lighting, showing it was poor.
  • 👨‍🎓 The judge's personal inspection of the scene and its lighting conditions played a crucial role in his decision to grant a retrial.
  • 🏆 The case ended with Carrillo being released and exonerated, illustrating the impact of integrating science into legal proceedings.
  • 📚 There's a call for increased scientific literacy among legal professionals to improve the justice system's reliability and fairness.

Q & A

  • When did the murder mentioned in the script occur?

    -The murder happened on January 18th, 1991.

  • What was the immediate cause of the father's death in the script?

    -The father was killed by a gunshot from a passing car as he was telling his son and his friends to go home.

  • How quickly did the police identify a suspect after the murder?

    -The police identified Francisco Carrillo as a suspect less than 24 hours after the shooting.

  • What was the evidence used to charge Francisco Carrillo with first-degree murder?

    -The evidence used to charge Francisco Carrillo was the identification by one of the teenagers who saw the shooter from a photo array.

  • What were the significant issues with the initial investigation and trial of Francisco Carrillo?

    -The significant issues included the lack of a found gun, no identified vehicle related to the crime, and no one charged with being the driver of the shooter's vehicle. Additionally, Mr. Carrillo's alibi was not considered.

  • What is the Innocence Project, and how does it relate to the script?

    -The Innocence Project is an organization that works to exonerate wrongfully convicted individuals through DNA testing. It is related to the script as it highlights the fallibility of eyewitness identification, which was a factor in many wrongful convictions, including some that were later overturned by DNA evidence.

  • How does the concept of 'the brain abhors a vacuum' relate to the case discussed in the script?

    -The concept 'the brain abhors a vacuum' refers to the brain's tendency to fill in missing information from memory, which can lead to reconstructed or inaccurate memories. This concept is relevant to the case as it suggests that the eyewitnesses' identifications might have been influenced by incomplete memories filled in by inference or post-observation information.

  • What role did the forensic neurophysiologist play in the case of Francisco Carrillo?

    -The forensic neurophysiologist provided expert testimony on eyewitness memory identification and human night vision, which was crucial in challenging the reliability of the identifications made by the teenagers and the conditions under which the crime was witnessed.

  • What was the outcome of the retrial petition for Francisco Carrillo?

    -The judge granted the petition for a retrial and released Mr. Carrillo to aid in the preparation of his defense. The prosecution ultimately decided not to retry him, leading to his release as a freed man.

  • What recommendations does the speaker make to improve the integration of science in the courtroom?

    -The speaker suggests that more science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) education should be required for law students, as they become the judges. Additionally, there should be a greater emphasis on policy and procedures to incorporate more scientific evidence in legal proceedings.

  • What is the key takeaway regarding memory from the speaker's perspective?

    -The key takeaway is that all memories are reconstructed and can be influenced by subsequent experiences and information. The accuracy of a memory is not determined by its vividness or the confidence in its correctness, and we should be cautious about the reliability of our memories.

Outlines

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🔍 The Tragic Murder and Subsequent Flawed Conviction

The narrative begins with a recount of a murder that occurred in Lynwood, California, in 1991. A father was shot and killed by a passenger in a passing car while admonishing his son and friends. The police swiftly identified Francisco Carrillo, a 17-year-old, as the suspect based on the identification by one of the teenagers. Despite the lack of physical evidence such as the murder weapon or the vehicle, and with only the identifications from the teenagers, Carrillo was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment. The speaker points out the fallibility of eyewitness testimonies, supported by Innocence Project data showing numerous wrongful convictions due to such evidence.

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🧠 The Fallibility of Human Memory and Eyewitness Testimonies

The speaker delves into the science behind human memory, explaining how the brain fills in missing information unconsciously, leading to reconstructed memories that can be inaccurate. This phenomenon, combined with the known unreliability of eyewitness identifications, was a driving factor for a group of attorneys to seek a retrial for Carrillo. The speaker, as a forensic neurophysiologist, was brought in to provide expertise on memory identification and human night vision, which is particularly relevant given the case's context of a dimly lit crime scene.

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🌙 The Impact of Lighting Conditions on Eyewitness Accounts

The speaker challenges the assumption that the crime scene was well-lit by conducting an analysis of the lighting conditions at the time of the crime. Using lunar and solar data, the speaker demonstrates that the only light would have been from artificial sources, as it was past twilight and there was no moon. Through on-site measurements and reconstructions, the speaker shows that the lighting was poor, which significantly impacts the reliability of the teenagers' identifications. The speaker's testimony includes the prediction that under such lighting, there would be no reliable color perception and very limited visual resolution, casting doubt on the validity of the eyewitness accounts.

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🏆 The Retrial, Release, and the Integration of Science in the Legal System

The judge, after witnessing a reenactment of the crime under similar lighting conditions, granted the petition for a retrial and released Carrillo. The prosecution eventually decided not to retry him, leading to his freedom. The speaker concludes with a call for increased scientific literacy in the legal profession and a reminder of the volatility of human memory. The story of Carrillo's release after 21 years of wrongful imprisonment underscores the importance of integrating science into the legal system to prevent such miscarriages of justice.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Eyewitness Identification

Eyewitness identification refers to the process where a witness attempts to identify a suspect from a lineup or a photo array. In the video, this concept is central as it discusses the wrongful conviction of Francisco Carrillo based on the identification made by teenagers who claimed to have seen the shooter. The video highlights the fallibility of such identifications, which is a significant theme, as it led to the initial conviction and later the reexamination of the case.

💡Innocence Project

The Innocence Project is an organization dedicated to exonerating wrongfully convicted individuals through DNA testing. The video mentions the Innocence Project's statistical analyses, which have documented over 250 cases of wrongful convictions often based on eyewitness identifications. This keyword is crucial as it underscores the video's message about the unreliability of memory and the importance of scientific evidence in the judicial system.

💡Human Memory

Human memory, particularly eyewitness memory, is a key concept in the video. It is discussed in the context of its fallibility and how it can be influenced by external factors post-event. The video explains that the brain fills in gaps in memory, leading to reconstructed memories that may not be accurate, which is exemplified by the teenagers' identification of the wrong suspect in the case discussed.

💡Reconstructed Memories

Reconstructed memories are memories that have been altered or supplemented by inference or information acquired after the event. The video emphasizes that the brain 'abhors a vacuum' and fills in missing details without conscious awareness, leading to potential inaccuracies. This concept is integral to understanding the wrongful conviction in the case, as it suggests that the teenagers' memories of the shooter may have been reconstructed and thus unreliable.

💡Forensic Neurophysiologist

A forensic neurophysiologist is an expert in the field of neuroscience as it applies to legal matters, particularly in relation to memory and perception. In the video, the speaker, a forensic neurophysiologist, is retained to provide expert testimony on the nature of human night vision and memory identification. This role is pivotal as it brings scientific rigor to challenge the conviction and ultimately contributes to the retrial and release of the wrongfully accused.

💡Night Vision

Night vision pertains to the ability to see in low-light conditions. The video discusses the role of night vision in the case, as the crime occurred in the evening with poor lighting conditions. The forensic neurophysiologist's expertise in this area is used to demonstrate that the witnesses could not have reliably seen the shooter's face, casting doubt on the identification and conviction.

💡Civil Twilight

Civil twilight is the period of time in the evening after sunset and before it becomes fully dark. The video mentions that the crime occurred 'well past the end of civil twilight,' indicating very low light conditions. This detail is significant as it contributes to the argument that the eyewitnesses could not have accurately identified the shooter, thus impacting the validity of the initial conviction.

💡Photo-occluded

Photo-occluded refers to a situation where an object or a person's face is backlit, making it difficult to see details due to the contrast between the light source and the subject. In the video, the term is used to describe how the shooter's face would have been obscured by the car's roof and the dominant lighting coming from the north side, further questioning the reliability of the eyewitness identifications.

💡Scotopic Vision

Scotopic vision is the type of vision that occurs in very low light conditions, where there is very little color perception and limited resolution. The video explains that under the lighting conditions at the time of the crime, the witnesses would have been relying on scotopic vision, which would have significantly impaired their ability to identify the shooter, thus challenging the initial conviction.

💡Depth of Field

Depth of field in vision refers to the distance range within which objects appear acceptably sharp and in focus. The video discusses how the lighting conditions would have limited the depth of field to less than 18 inches, meaning that the witnesses, who were more than 18 inches away from the car, could not have seen the shooter's face clearly. This scientific evidence was crucial in the judge's decision to grant a retrial and release the wrongfully convicted individual.

Highlights

A murder occurred in Lynwood, California, in 1991, where a father was shot by a passing car.

Police quickly identified Francisco Carrillo as the suspect based on a teenager's identification from a photo array.

Carrillo was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment despite no gun or vehicle being identified.

The lack of physical evidence and the reliance on eyewitness testimony raised concerns about the conviction's validity.

Research from the Innocence Project shows that over 250 cases of wrongful convictions have been overturned, many due to flawed eyewitness identification.

Human memory is fallible, and the brain fills in missing information, leading to reconstructed memories.

A team of appeal attorneys, including Ellen Eggers, sought a retrial for Carrillo, highlighting the issues with eyewitness testimony and memory.

The forensic neurophysiologist's expertise in eyewitness memory and human night vision was crucial for the case.

The crime scene's lighting conditions were poor, challenging the teenagers' claims of clear visibility.

Actual measurements at the crime scene showed that color perception and visual resolution would have been severely limited.

The judge granted a retrial and released Carrillo after the forensic expert's testimony and a recreated scene demonstrated the impossibility of accurate identification.

Carrillo was ultimately freed, and the prosecution decided not to retry him.

The case highlights the importance of integrating more science into the courtroom to ensure fair trials.

The need for legal professionals to have a stronger understanding of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics is emphasized.

The accuracy of memories is not determined by their vividness or the confidence in their correctness, warning against overreliance on memory.

Transcripts

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast

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The murder happened a little over 21 years ago,

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January the 18th, 1991,

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in a small

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bedroom community

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of Lynwood, California, just a few miles

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southeast of Los Angeles.

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A father came out of his house

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to tell his teenage son and his five friends

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that it was time for them to stop horsing around

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on the front lawn and on the sidewalk,

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to get home, finish their schoolwork,

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and prepare themselves for bed.

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And as the father was administering these instructions,

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a car drove by, slowly,

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and just after it passed the father and the teenagers,

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a hand went out from the front passenger window,

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and -- "Bam, Bam!" -- killing the father.

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And the car sped off.

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The police,

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investigating officers, were amazingly efficient.

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They considered all the usual culprits,

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and in less than 24 hours, they had selected their suspect:

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Francisco Carrillo, a 17-year-old kid

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who lived about two or three blocks away

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from where the shooting occurred.

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They found photos of him. They prepared a photo array,

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and the day after the shooting,

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they showed it to one of the teenagers, and he said,

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"That's the picture.

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That's the shooter I saw that killed the father."

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That was all a preliminary hearing judge had

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to listen to, to bind Mr. Carrillo over to stand trial

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for a first-degree murder.

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In the investigation that followed before the actual trial,

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each of the other five teenagers was shown

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photographs, the same photo array.

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The picture that we best can determine was probably

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the one that they were shown in the photo array

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is in your bottom left hand corner of these mug shots.

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The reason we're not sure absolutely is because

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of the nature of evidence preservation

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in our judicial system,

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but that's another whole TEDx talk for later. (Laughter)

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So at the actual trial,

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all six of the teenagers testified,

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and indicated the identifications they had made

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in the photo array.

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He was convicted. He was sentenced to life imprisonment,

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and transported to Folsom Prison.

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So what's wrong?

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Straightforward, fair trial, full investigation.

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Oh yes, no gun was ever found.

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No vehicle was ever identified as being the one

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in which the shooter had extended his arm,

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and no person was ever charged with being the driver

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of the shooter's vehicle.

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And Mr. Carrillo's alibi?

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Which of those parents here in the room might not lie

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concerning the whereabouts of your son or daughter

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in an investigation of a killing?

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Sent to prison,

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adamantly insisting on his innocence,

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which he has consistently for 21 years.

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So what's the problem?

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The problems, actually, for this kind of case

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come manyfold from decades of scientific research

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involving human memory.

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First of all, we have all the statistical analyses

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from the Innocence Project work,

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where we know that we have, what,

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250, 280 documented cases now where people have

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been wrongfully convicted and subsequently exonerated,

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some from death row, on the basis of later DNA analysis,

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and you know that over three quarters of all of those cases

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of exoneration involved only eyewitness identification

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testimony during the trial that convicted them.

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We know that eyewitness identifications are fallible.

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The other comes from an interesting aspect

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of human memory that's related to various brain functions

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but I can sum up for the sake of brevity here

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in a simple line:

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The brain abhors a vacuum.

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Under the best of observation conditions,

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the absolute best,

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we only detect, encode and store in our brains

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bits and pieces of the entire experience in front of us,

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and they're stored in different parts of the brain.

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So now, when it's important for us to be able to recall

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what it was that we experienced,

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we have an incomplete, we have a partial store,

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and what happens?

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Below awareness, with no requirement for any kind of

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motivated processing, the brain fills in information

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that was not there,

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not originally stored,

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from inference, from speculation,

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from sources of information that came to you,

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as the observer, after the observation.

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But it happens without awareness such that

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you don't, aren't even cognizant of it occurring.

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It's called reconstructed memories.

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It happens to us in all the aspects of our life, all the time.

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It was those two considerations, among others --

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reconstructed memory, the fact about the eyewitness fallibility --

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that was part of the instigation

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for a group of appeal attorneys

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led by an amazing lawyer named Ellen Eggers

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to pool their experience and their talents together

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and petition a superior court

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for a retrial for Francisco Carrillo.

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They retained me, as a forensic neurophysiologist,

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because I had expertise

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in eyewitness memory identification,

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which obviously makes sense for this case, right?

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But also because I have expertise and testify about

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the nature of human night vision.

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Well, what's that got to do with this?

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Well, when you read through the case materials

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in this Carrillo case,

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one of the things that suddenly strikes you is that

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the investigating officers said the lighting was good

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at the crime scene, at the shooting.

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All the teenagers testified during the trial

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that they could see very well.

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But this occurred in mid-January,

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in the Northern Hemisphere, at 7 p.m. at night.

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So when I did the calculations

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for the lunar data and the solar data

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at that location on Earth at the time of the incident

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of the shooting, all right,

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it was well past the end of civil twilight

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and there was no moon up that night.

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So all the light in this area from the sun and the moon

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is what you see on the screen right here.

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The only lighting in that area had to come

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from artificial sources,

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and that's where I go out and I do the actual reconstruction

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of the scene with photometers, with various measures

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of illumination and various other measures of

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color perception, along with special cameras

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and high-speed film, right?

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Take all the measurements and record them, right?

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And then take photographs, and this is what the scene

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looked like at the time of the shooting

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from the position of the teenagers

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looking at the car going by and shooting.

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This is looking directly across the street

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from where they were standing.

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Remember, the investigating officers' report said

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the lighting was good.

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The teenagers said they could see very well.

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This is looking down to the east,

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where the shooting vehicle sped off,

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and this is the lighting directly behind the father

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and the teenagers.

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As you can see, it is at best poor.

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No one's going to call this well-lit, good lighting,

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and in fact, as nice as these pictures are,

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and the reason we take them is I knew I was going to have to testify in court,

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and a picture is worth more than a thousand words

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when you're trying to communicate numbers,

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abstract concepts like lux, the international measurement

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of illumination, the Ishihara color perception test values.

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When you present those to people who are not well-versed

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in those aspects of science and that, they become

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salamanders in the noonday sun. It's like

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talking about the tangent of the visual angle, all right?

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Their eyes just glaze over, all right?

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A good forensic expert also has to be a good educator,

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a good communicator, and that's part of the reason

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why we take the pictures, to show not only

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where the light sources are, and what we call the spill,

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the distribution, but also so that it's easier

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for the trier of fact to understand the circumstances.

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So these are some of the pictures that, in fact,

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I used when I testified,

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but more importantly were, to me as a scientist,

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are those readings, the photometer readings,

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which I can then convert into actual predictions

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of the visual capability of the human eye

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under those circumstances,

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and from my readings that I recorded at the scene

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under the same solar and lunar conditions

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at the same time, so on and so forth, right,

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I could predict

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that there would be no reliable color perception,

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which is crucial for face recognition,

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and that there would be only scotopic vision,

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which means there would be very little resolution,

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what we call boundary or edge detection,

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and that furthermore, because the eyes would have been

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totally dilated under this light, the depth of field,

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the distance at which you can focus and see details,

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would have been less than 18 inches away.

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I testified to that to the court,

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and while the judge was very attentive,

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it had been a very, very long hearing

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for this petition for a retrial, and as a result,

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I noticed out of the corner of my eye

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that I thought that maybe the judge was going to need

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a little more of a nudge

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than just more numbers.

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And here I became a bit audacious,

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and I turned

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and I asked the judge,

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I said, "Your Honor, I think you should go out

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and look at the scene yourself."

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Now I may have used a tone which was more like a dare

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than a request — (Laughter) —

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but nonetheless, it's to this man's credit and his courage

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that he said, "Yes, I will."

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A shocker in American jurisprudence.

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So in fact, we found the same identical conditions,

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we reconstructed the entire thing again,

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he came out with an entire brigade of sheriff's officers

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to protect him in this community, all right? (Laughter)

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We had him stand actually slightly in the street,

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so closer to the suspect vehicle, the shooter vehicle,

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than the actual teenagers were,

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so he stood a few feet from the curb

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toward the middle of the street.

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We had a car that came by,

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same identical car as described by the teenagers, right?

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It had a driver and a passenger,

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and after the car had passed the judge by,

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the passenger extended his hand,

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pointed it back to the judge as the car continued on,

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just as the teenagers had described it, right?

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Now, he didn't use a real gun in his hand,

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so he had a black object in his hand that was similar

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to the gun that was described.

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He pointed by, and this is what the judge saw.

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This is the car 30 feet away from the judge.

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There's an arm sticking out of the passenger side

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and pointed back at you.

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That's 30 feet away.

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Some of the teenagers said that in fact the car

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was 15 feet away when it shot.

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Okay. There's 15 feet.

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At this point, I became a little concerned.

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This judge is someone you'd never want to play poker with.

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He was totally stoic. I couldn't see a twitch of his eyebrow.

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I couldn't see the slightest bend of his head.

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I had no sense of how he was reacting to this,

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and after he looked at this reenactment,

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he turned to me and he says,

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"Is there anything else you want me to look at?"

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I said, "Your honor," and I don't know whether I was

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emboldened by the scientific measurements that I had

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in my pocket and my knowledge that they are accurate,

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or whether it was just sheer stupidity,

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which is what the defense lawyers thought — (Laughter) —

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when they heard me say,

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"Yes, Your Honor, I want you stand right there

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and I want the car to go around the block again

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and I want it to come and I want it to stop

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right in front of you, three to four feet away,

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and I want the passenger to extend his hand

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with a black object and point it right at you,

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and you can look at it as long as you want."

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And that's what he saw. (Laughter)

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You'll notice, which was also in my test report,

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all the dominant lighting is coming from the north side,

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which means that the shooter's face would

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have been photo-occluded. It would have been backlit.

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Furthermore, the roof of the car

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is causing what we call a shadow cloud inside the car

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which is making it darker.

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And this is three to four feet away.

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Why did I take the risk?

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I knew that the depth of field was 18 inches or less.

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Three to four feet, it might as well have been

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a football field away.

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This is what he saw.

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He went back, there was a few more days of evidence

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that was heard. At the end of it,

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he made the judgment that he was going to grant

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the petition for a retrial.

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And furthermore, he released Mr. Carrillo

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so that he could aid in the preparation of his own defense

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if the prosecution decided to retry him.

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Which they decided not to.

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He is now a freed man. (Applause)

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(Applause)

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This is him embracing his grandmother-in-law.

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He -- His girlfriend was pregnant when he went to trial,

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right? And she had a little baby boy.

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He and his son are both attending Cal State, Long Beach

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right now taking classes. (Applause)

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And what does this example --

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what's important to keep in mind for ourselves?

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First of all, there's a long history of antipathy

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between science and the law

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in American jurisprudence.

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I could regale you with horror stories of ignorance

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over decades of experience as a forensic expert

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of just trying to get science into the courtroom.

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The opposing council always fight it and oppose it.

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One suggestion is that all of us become much more

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attuned to the necessity, through policy,

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through procedures,

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to get more science in the courtroom,

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and I think one large step toward that

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is more requirements,

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with all due respect to the law schools,

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of science, technology, engineering, mathematics

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for anyone going into the law,

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because they become the judges.

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Think about how we select our judges in this country.

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It's very different than most other cultures. All right?

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The other one that I want to suggest,

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the caution that all of us have to have,

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I constantly have to remind myself,

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about just how accurate are the memories

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that we know are true, that we believe in?

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There is decades of research,

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examples and examples of cases like this,

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where individuals

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really, really believe. None of those teenagers

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who identified him

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thought that they were picking the wrong person.

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None of them thought they couldn't see the person's face.

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We all have to be very careful.

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All our memories are reconstructed memories.

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They are the product of what we originally experienced

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and everything that's happened afterwards.

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They're dynamic.

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They're malleable. They're volatile,

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and as a result, we all need to remember to be cautious,

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that the accuracy of our memories

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is not measured in how vivid they are

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nor how certain you are that they're correct.

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Thank you. (Applause)

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