“We Are In WW3”: The Shocking Truth About US Proxy Warfare in the Middle East and Ukraine
Summary
TLDRKevork Al-Macion, founder of Syriana Analysis, discusses the ongoing conflicts in Syria amid global focus on Ukraine. He details a recent attack on a convoy carrying Iranian weapons, highlighting the U.S. and Israel's roles in Syria and Iran. Al-Macion emphasizes the impact of U.S. sanctions on Syria, the occupation of Syrian oil and wheat fields by American forces, and the geopolitical maneuvers involving Israel and Russia. He also touches on Turkey's shifting stance towards reconciliation with Syria, driven by economic challenges and regional stability concerns, and warns of escalating tensions leading to a broader conflict.
Takeaways
- 👀 All eyes have been on Ukraine, causing attention to be diverted from Syria.
- ⚔️ Syria remains a proxy war battleground for the US and Russia.
- 📉 The Syrian conflict has been somewhat frozen due to the war in Ukraine.
- 💣 A recent strike hit a convoy carrying Iranian weapons into Syria.
- 💵 The US launched a regime change war in Syria in 2011, which was highly costly.
- 🛡️ Plan B after the failed regime change included imposing sanctions, occupying Syrian resources, and controlling border crossings.
- 🇮🇷 Convoys from Iran are often targeted, containing humanitarian aid rather than just weapons.
- 🇮🇱 Recent Israeli strikes in Syria and Iran may have US support, aiming to pressure allies in a larger geopolitical conflict.
- 🌍 The US is pushing its allies to choose sides in the conflict with Russia and potentially with China.
- 🛢️ Turkey is reconciling with Syria, driven by economic needs and regional stability concerns.
Q & A
What is the current situation in Syria in relation to the Ukraine conflict?
-The Syrian conflict has been somewhat frozen due to the intensity and importance of the conflict in Ukraine for both Russia and the United States.
What was the recent deadly attack in Syria involving a convoy carrying Iranian weapons?
-There was a strike on a convoy carrying Iranian weapons into Syria, but the attack footage did not show typical explosions associated with weapons. Instead, medical equipment and milk were seen, highlighting the humanitarian aspect of the convoy.
What is the significance of the altana's border crossing between Syria and its neighboring countries?
-The altana's border crossing connects Syria to Jordan and Iraq. It's significant because the U.S. and Israel have conducted strikes there to disrupt the flow of humanitarian aid and other supplies from Iran and Iraq into Syria.
What was Operation Timber Sycamore?
-Operation Timber Sycamore was a covert operation launched by the United States in 2011 aimed at regime change in Syria. It was one of the costliest covert operations in CIA history, involving significant financial contributions from Saudi Arabia.
How have sanctions impacted Syria?
-The U.S. has imposed severe sanctions on Syria, which restrict the country's ability to purchase basic necessities like medicine and food, further exacerbating the humanitarian crisis.
What are the three pillars of the U.S. 'Plan B' in Syria after the failure of the regime change war?
-The three pillars are: (1) imposing sanctions, (2) occupying Syrian oil and wheat fields, and (3) controlling border crossings to disrupt trade and aid from Iran and Iraq.
What role has Israel played in the conflict in Syria and Iran?
-Israel has conducted numerous airstrikes in Syria, often targeting what they claim are Iranian-linked groups or weapons convoys. Recent strikes are believed to have been greenlighted by the U.S. to pressure Israel into taking a clear stance on the Ukraine conflict.
Why is there skepticism about the claims that the convoys targeted by Israel and the U.S. were carrying weapons?
-There is skepticism because the aftermath footage of the attacks often shows humanitarian supplies like medical equipment and milk, rather than weapons, suggesting the convoys might not have been primarily for military purposes.
How has Turkey's stance towards Syria changed recently?
-Turkey, which initially supported regime change in Syria, is now seeking reconciliation with the Syrian government due to economic hardships, the burden of Syrian refugees, and the desire to push Kurdish militias away from its borders.
What does the future hold for the geopolitical landscape involving Syria, Iran, and the U.S.?
-The geopolitical landscape is likely to remain tense, with escalating conflicts in Ukraine possibly prompting more aggressive actions from the U.S. and its allies. There is also a risk of wider-scale war if heavier weaponry is supplied to Ukraine.
Outlines
🌍 Proxy Wars and Recent Attacks in Syria
Kevork Al-Macion, founder of Syriana Analysis, discusses the ongoing proxy war in Syria amid the global focus on Ukraine. He highlights a recent strike on a convoy carrying Iranian weapons into Syria and provides historical context, mentioning the US's regime change efforts in Syria starting in 2011. He also explains the impact of the US sanctions and the American forces' occupation of Syrian resources, leading to a severe humanitarian crisis.
🛡️ US and Israeli Strikes: Proxy Conflict Dynamics
Kevork explains how the US and Israel have conducted numerous strikes in Syria since 2011, often targeting Iranian or Iran-linked forces. He questions the legality of Syria's right to purchase weapons for defense and criticizes the logic of these strikes. He suggests that the recent escalation might be driven by US attempts to force Israel to take a clear stance in the conflict between NATO and Russia, potentially leading to closer cooperation between Russia and Iran.
⚖️ Geopolitical Shifts and Strategic Alliances
Kevork discusses the broader geopolitical implications of the ongoing conflicts, noting the merging interests between Russia and Iran due to US actions. He highlights how countries are being pushed into clear stances, with Israel's hesitance to fully align with Ukraine being pressured by the US. He also points out the unified stance of European countries against Russia and the potential for similar block formations in Asia against China.
🕊️ Turkey's Changing Role and Regional Stability
The discussion shifts to Turkey's evolving stance. Initially a key player in the regime change war in Syria, Turkey is now seeking reconciliation with Assad due to economic hardships, the refugee crisis, and regional stability needs. Kevork outlines Turkey's strategic interests, including managing Kurdish militias and becoming an energy hub, which necessitate stability and cooperation with Syria. He also mentions the potential future developments based on upcoming elections in Turkey.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Proxy War
💡Timber Sycamore
💡Sanctions
💡Caesar Act
💡Humanitarian Aid
💡Al-Bukamal
💡Iran-Backed Groups
💡Israel
💡Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert
💡World War III
Highlights
Kevork Al-Macion discusses the often-overlooked situation in Syria, drawing attention to its ongoing proxy war with Russia.
A recent strike on a convoy carrying Iranian weapons into Syria is analyzed, emphasizing the frozen yet occasionally flaring conflict in Syria post-Ukraine war.
The 2011 regime change war in Syria, covertly initiated by the United States under Operation Timber Sycamore, is highlighted.
The role of Saudi Arabia in attempting to remove President Bashar Assad through significant financial investments is discussed.
The United States' shift in strategy post-2017 under President Trump, moving from direct regime change to imposing sanctions, is explained.
The United States' occupation of Syrian oil and wheat resources, and its impact on the Syrian populace, is covered.
The strategic importance of border crossings between Syria, Jordan, and Iraq is highlighted, including the Albuquamal crossing.
The recent Israeli strike on the Albuquamal border crossing and its implications are discussed, including its impact on humanitarian aid.
The connection between recent drone attacks in Iran and potential Israeli involvement, possibly with American approval, is explored.
The geopolitical implications of escalating conflicts in Syria and Iran, particularly in relation to World War III, are analyzed.
The challenges Syria faces in procuring essential goods, such as medicine and baby milk, due to ongoing sanctions are detailed.
Kevork Al-Macion questions the labeling of Syrian convoys as 'Iran-backed groups' and discusses Syria's right to self-defense.
The role of Turkey in the Syrian conflict, including its shifting stance towards reconciliation with Syria, is examined.
Turkey's internal challenges, such as high inflation and the presence of millions of Syrian refugees, are discussed in the context of its foreign policy.
The potential for Turkey to become an energy hub, contingent on regional stability, is highlighted.
The possibility of wider conflict involving NATO, Russia, and Iran is considered, with implications for global security.
The strategic alignment of countries like Russia, China, and Iran against American policies is discussed.
The influence of historical American and Israeli coordination in regional conflicts is examined.
The potential escalation of the Ukraine conflict with the delivery of tanks and other advanced weapons is analyzed.
The role of European countries in aligning with American policies against Russia is discussed.
The implications of potential escalations in the Ukraine conflict, such as the delivery of F-16s and submarines, are considered.
Transcripts
well all eyes have been on Ukraine and
because of it we forget about what's
happening in Syria but if you remember
Syria is also one of the spots where we
are in a proxy war with Russia here to
give us some insight into what's
happening on that front is kevork
al-macion founder of syriana analysis
kevork welcome to the show thank you so
much for being here lots to talk about
when it comes to what we all you know we
talk so much about Ukraine lots to talk
about going on actually in Syria
um let's start off with this deadly
attack there was recently a strike that
that attacked a convoy carrying Iranian
weapons into Syria can you tell us about
that attack
actually the Serbian conflict has been
frozen especially after the Ukraine war
due to the intensity of the conflict in
Ukraine or the importance for Russia and
for the United States however there are
so many Frozen fronts in Syria sometimes
it gets flared sometimes it is just a
truce what happened actually we have to
put it into proper context in 2011 the
United States launched a regime change
war on Syria it was a covert operation
under the title Timber sycamer according
to the New York Times it was one of the
costliest covered operations in the
history of the CIA the Saudis for
example they asked for two trillion
dollars in order to remove president
bashal Assad in 2013 bandar ban Sultan
Ascot or he is called in the United
States as Banda Bush because he has very
close ties with the Bush family they
failed they have spent over 200 billion
dollars in order to remove Assad through
training and arming the so-called Rebel
groups in Syria who were affiliated with
Al-Qaeda and Isis groups so when the
regime change will fail else Trump ended
the regime change war in 2017 and in
2017 they changed the plan there was a
plan B the plan B had three pillars
number one was sanctions so the United
States imposes Draconian sanctions on
the Syrian people they even banned the
syrians from buying medicine food and
lots of basic necessities from the
outside world they say that these
materials or the food and Medicine are
Exempted from the sanctions but that's
not true because Syria isn't allowed to
make transactions the central bank is
sanctioned and any company that receives
money from Syria it will be sanctioned
according to the Caesar act that was
adopted in 2018. the second pillar is
that the Americans occupy or the
American forces occupy the oil and the
wheat of Syria therefore they wanted to
inflict a heavy pain on the Syrian
people who stood with their government
against this regime change world so they
use the famine as a weapon against the
Syrian people the third which is now are
related to what happened now on the
borders between Iraq and Syria the
United States occupies different border
crossings between Serbia and its
neighboring countries one of them is
altana's border crossing which connects
Syria to Jordan and in Iraq so the
syrians and the Iraqis and the Iranians
opened another border causing because
they want to do trade they want to do
business and also humanitarian Aid that
comes from different countries and this
border crossing is in albuquamal and
this is where exactly when Joe Biden
came in power
the first strike that he authorized was
on this border crossing in albuquamad
and now the Israelis did again similar
strike on this because any material or
any convoys that come from Iran or from
Iraq they are either humanitarian Aid or
their medicine or weapons sometimes
however when we see the footage now up
in the aftermath of this attack on
al-bukamal border crossing I haven't
seen weapon convoys I haven't seen
explosions in the kind in in the type
that they were weapons there there are
so many for example uh masks I have seen
medical equipment medicine and even milk
because I want to say something very
important I have friends now in Syria
they have newborn babies and they cannot
find milk for their newborn babies and
this is due to the sanction so Syria has
has to export sorry import these
products from Iran Iraq and other
friendly countries and this Convoy was
attacked and if I want to relay this
attack to what happened in Iran for
example just I think two days ago there
was another drone attack and a military
facility in Iran and it was a drone
attack and in my estimation this was
Israel who conducted this attack and it
could be from azerbaijani territories
because Azerbaijan is considered an
advanced satellite country for Israel
and other Advanced countries to spy and
Iran so this comes in my opinion after a
green light by the Americans or the
American Administration to Israel to
strike both Syria and Iran in this
regard because for the Americans this is
a very decisive moment we are living
World War III it's still Limited in the
scope in Ukraine but things could go out
of control and if it gets out of control
the Americans want for the Israelis to
uh to choose whether they are with
Russia or with the Americans they cannot
have one feet here and one feet there
they so the Americans are drawing clear
lines if there is a clash between NATO
and and Russia and whose side are you
going to be Israel I give you now the
green light to strike Iran and you have
to see that the Iranians and the
Russians will come together and the
Russians will condemn the attack and
they will increase the cooperation
between the both sides so they will be
more uh like merging of the interest
between the Iranian and the Russian side
and more of merging interest between the
Israelis and the Americans so this is
preparation for
if there is going to be a wider scale of
a war between the United States or NATO
and the Russians
okay so amazing information here and a
lot to break down with this deadly
attack just to kind of go over it the
seven people were killed in this attack
it was a convoy of trucks that were
carrying what they claimed what the the
you know the reports have been carrying
weapons
um and what's interesting about the
reports is that we hear this term over
and over and over again and so maybe you
could clarify this but they say it was a
convoy of iran-backed groups they said
that they were not syrians however they
were non-syrians but they were
iran-backed groups so who were these
people
so every time the United States or
Israel conduct strikes in Syria and
there are hundreds of strikes against
Syria after 2011 they always say those
are either Iranian forces or
iranian-linked forces or groups so we if
if they have a clear information they
should name if it's possible if it's any
Iraqi group or it's a Syrian group so
what's the name of this group that is
Affiliated to Iran and whether they are
affiliated with Iran or not I have to
ask a question is Syria allowed to buy
weapons from Iran or not according to
any local laws or international law
syrians have the right to buy defensive
weapons for example to protect their
airspace against these strikes that is
coming from the Israelis so let's take
this scenario and just an example every
day they are convoys or or planes coming
to Israel into Haifa or in any airports
and they they are delivering weapons
imagine Syria or any other country
bombing the facilities of Israel every
day and claiming that this is is an
American linked airplane or American
link ship that is delivering weapons to
Israel what kind of logic is this every
country has the right to protect its
territory and its sovereignty and Syria
after the war because the so-called
Rebels were linked to Al-Qaeda the first
thing they did after the war they
occupied the air defense systems air
defense bases of Syria and they
destroyed them all so Syria now has a
shortage of air defense systems and
they're trying to buy them whether from
Iran or from from Russia and they have
the right to do so because every week
Israel is bombing Syria whether it's in
Damascus or in Aleppo or in homes and
every time after the bombing of Syrian
facilities they say oh we bombed
iranian-linked groups so who are these
groups sorry right they are they are
definitely sometimes if we if we put if
we calculate how many people died during
these airstrikes there are hundreds of
people and I can assure you 99 of them
are syrians they're not Iranians and
they are not iranian-linked groups your
syrians dying because the syrians are
the ones who are trying to defend their
airspace from these airstrikes coming
from Israel
so let's complicate things a little bit
more
um interesting perspective that you're
kind of so just to be clear before I
move on to Turkey kind of getting into
the mix here are you saying that you
think that the United States or the west
or NATO is sort of behind Israel's
recent attacks in Iran and now in Syria
with the sort of premise of okay do this
and you know we'll let you do this and
then when you or even baiting them into
doing it knowing that it's going to
cause a conflict with Russia and they're
going to have to choose so you think
that United States or NATO is like the
puppet master in this
if we read for example the memos of Ehud
Barak and Ehud almert they all mentioned
several abstracts that they authorized
on Serbia or other players in the region
and every time they had a long phone
conversations with American presidents
and American Security and military
officials they always coordinated with
the Americans when they conducted these
strikes and they always wanted the green
light from the Americans because they
don't want also to be exposed in front
of a retaliation if a retaliation comes
from Iran or from Syria they don't want
to be alone in a confrontation against
these countries therefore I believe this
time is not also it's it's not different
this time this time however the United
States authorized or gave the green
light for the Israelis to strike Iran
inside Iran in exchange for a clear
stance on on the Ukrainian conflict
because the because the Israelis or the
Israeli government their heart is
definitely with with the Ukrainian side
with the American side but at the same
time they have their own calculations in
Serbia they are striking Syria many
times during the month and the Russians
aren't really intervening in this regard
to protect the Skies of Syria but if the
Russians Supply Syria with Advanced Air
Defense systems due to the to the
increasing increase Israeli intervention
in Ukraine then the warplanes the
fighter jets of Israel will be targeted
by Advanced weapon systems and this is a
danger for the Israeli National Security
from their perspective so that's why
Israel didn't want to intervene directly
in Ukraine but now I think the Americans
are pushing their allies look how the
European Union is acting nowadays it's
like it's a one block like all the
countries have one opinion like all the
countries have one National Security
interest as if they don't have their own
interest in this Regard in exception for
Hungary All European countries are
siding with the United States in in the
war on new you in Ukraine and similarly
in China for example in Taiwan we can
see South Korea Japan the Philippines
are all also coming as a one block now
against China in the case if there is
any future
let's say a Chinese attack on on Taiwan
so the Americans are readying for
long-term conflict with with their Force
Russia and China and they want their
allies to have a clear clear stance in
this regard
well it seems you know I'm glad you kind
of brought up uh Taiwan there because it
seems to me that perhaps these strikes
that are happening inside of Iran and
now Syria could potentially be one of
those you know we've been accusing
um with the with the war in Ukraine the
accusation or the worry I should say is
that well if we let this go and we we
see what Russia is doing then China is
going to go after Taiwan this opens up
the door because NATO and the United
States is uh you know focused on this
war in Ukraine and so we would you know
maybe China would take the opportunity
to split them same thing in this regard
it would make me think that perhaps now
some are thinking well the window is
open the op the window of opportunity is
open now that Russia which is the
biggest Ally of Syria and Iran is too
busy engaging in a war with Ukraine
perhaps now is the time to go in and try
to topple Assad and try to topple the
regime in Iran do you think that's a
possibility or do you think this really
is just
um you know trying to okay show who
you're who you're allied with
I think I think uh practically speaking
the United States cannot topple the
Syrian government or the Iranian
government they tried they want to wage
hybrid Warfare against these governments
because they know the direct
confrontation with these countries means
a complete uh a chaos in the entire
middle is the cut off supply lines for
the oil for the gas the entire Gulf
region will be burnt so it's not
something that the Americans can afford
at this moment because the retaliation
will be very big however what's what's
happening is to to bring different
countries into blocks into groupings
into groups and make them move as one
block against the force of the United
States I don't think the Americans are
capable of overthrowing uh any regime
now whether it's in Iran or if it's in
Syria they spend billions and billions
and billions of dollars on a small
country like Syria and they couldn't
overthrow the government there because
there was a popular support and also in
the the support of Russia and Iran so so
increasing intervention of the Americans
in the region are also bringing
different countries on the same side
Luke Iran and Russia they have different
National Security and geopolitical
interests in the Middle East they don't
share the same geopolitical interests
all the time but because of the American
um let's say engineered cudetas and
regime change Wars and trying to
destabilize different countries in the
region these countries are becoming
closer to each other like in the entire
history I haven't seen China and Russia
are on the same page as much as they are
now and this is happening because of
this American let's say
offensive on on on Russia and China
these countries are obliged to come more
and more together otherwise they will
perish individually
so this is where things get weird right
because now turkey so then you bring
turkey into the mix and turkey's a NATO
country uh supposedly allied with the
west and NATO obviously and now they are
actually eyeing reconciliation with
Syria they were once attacking Assad and
now they're actually looking to uh to to
to partner back up in a way I should say
or or you know be friendly and to
recognize that government that kind of
throws a wrench into things what's your
take on that
so turkey was tasked by the United
States turkey and Qatar were tasked by
the United States to lead this regime
change war in Syria were it not for
turkey we have 800 kilometer shared
borders with turkey but not for turkey
not a single multinational jihadis would
have been able to come to Syria so all
these multinational jihadists with tens
of thousands came from a NATO country
where one of the biggest NATO bases are
in southern turkey where they can see
all this influx of the jihadists coming
into Syria so erdogan wanted to play
this role at the beginning he was a good
friend with Assad he turned his back and
Assad okay but after 11 and 12 years
today the inflation in Turkey is over
160 percent 160 percent the economic
situation is very dire there is no
Regional business with the Middle East
because the the direct border with
Serbia is closed and it's occupied by
the Kurdish militias and additionally
you have 3.5 million refugees from Syria
in Turkey so turkey is in dire is a very
difficult situation they want to solve
this with Assad right now because first
they want to return 3.5 million refugees
to Syria with the growing economic let's
say hardship there and also with the
growing negative sentiments towards the
refugees by the Turkish media and by the
ruling government there and two they
want to
solve their issue with Syria in order to
push the Kurdish militias at least 30
kilometers away from the borders for the
Turks it's this is a very important case
they don't want armed Kurdish militias
on the borders that have enmity their
enemies with turkey and third this is
the most important thing Russia promised
Iran that it can become an energy Hub in
the region and in Europe there are new
gas deals between the gas prom and the
Turk stream in order to
extend pipelines from Russia into the
territories of champion from Turkey it
can also go to Europe and into different
countries so if there is a chaos in the
middle is if there is a if your
neighboring country is in a war zone if
you have Kurdish militias on the borders
you're not able to become an energy Hub
you need stability in order to play this
role so the interests of Turkey its
interest is now to make a deal with
Assad and I think before the elections
the foreign Ministers of Syria and
turkey will meet in order to solve this
situation but a meeting between Assad
and erdogan I don't think is possible
right now these syrians are not in hurry
and they're gonna wait after the
elections to see who's going to come to
power in Turkey
interesting
um okay just real quick big picture
overview what does this mean on the
grand stage I mean you've mentioned
we're already in World War Three what do
you predict or what do you see where do
you see all this headed
unfortunately I'm not optimistic I don't
I'm not well trained to see it to see
what's going to happen in the future but
the facts underground indicate that the
NATO side is going to escalate in
Ukraine and the delivery of the tanks
will open the gate for delivering a
harder let's say heavier well they're
talking about f-16s I mean Poland is
talking about showing the missing f-16s
Kim the former ambassador of Ukrainian
German he was kicked out from Germany
for glorifying stepan Bandera who was
one of the perpetrators of the Holocaust
against the Jews during World War II and
and the Ally of Hitler directly and he
was the ambassador of Ukraine in Germany
by the way he's now asking the uh the
Germans to send submarines
there's submarines to to Ukraine and
he's asking for long-range missiles that
means if something like this happens we
are going definitely into World War III
and it's already happening but the scope
will be bigger and I'm not trying to
feel longer but such type of a weapon
maybe if they arrive in in Ukraine it
will definitely lead into World War III
yeah tanks are one thing f-16s
submarines all of these other things are
an entirely different leveling up of the
conflict and I agree with you I do think
that that would absolutely escalate
things to a level that I don't think any
of us are really very comfortable with
kevork you are so fascinating you you
bring us so much Insight thank you so
much for being here uh kavork al-macion
he's an award-winning political
commentator from Syria also the founder
of siriana analysis am I saying that
correctly syriana analysis yes you're
saying it correct
although you work for a long time and I
appreciate your your work really thank
you oh thank you so much thank you
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