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風傳媒 The Storm Media
20 May 202419:23

Summary

TLDRThe video discusses the risks of investing in high dividend ETFs and highlights the importance of choosing the right investment strategy. It features insights from an expert, Qing Liu Jun, who warns against the pitfalls of common approaches like regular purchases and recommends a specific high dividend ETF (00713) for its strong historical performance and stability. He emphasizes the benefits of a one-time investment over periodic buying and stresses the importance of understanding market dynamics and risks associated with high dividend ETFs.

Takeaways

  • 📈 High Dividend ETFs in Taiwan have reached a total scale of over 1 trillion Taiwan dollars in 2024, indicating significant market interest.
  • ⚠️ There are risks associated with buying ETFs, especially if done incorrectly, such as the potential for losses through 'front running' strategies.
  • 🤔 The concept of 'eating tofu' refers to a predatory trading practice where large players manipulate the market to their advantage, often at the expense of retail investors.
  • 🌐 'Front running' is an international term for a strategy where traders anticipate the market movements of large funds, such as ETFs, to make profits.
  • 📉 High Dividend ETFs are weighted by dividend rates, which can lead to smaller market cap companies having a disproportionately large impact on the ETF's performance.
  • 😓 Retail investors are often the ones who suffer losses in these strategies, especially those who are new to the market or hold long-term positions in ETFs.
  • 💡 The speaker recommends a specific High Dividend ETF, 00713, which uses a multi-factor scoring system and minimum variance weighting, showing a historical performance of 20% annualized return.
  • 📊 The Sharpe Ratio of 00713 is 1.28, indicating a high risk-adjusted return compared to other ETFs.
  • 📉 The strategy of 'All in' investment, where one invests a lump sum at once, is suggested to be more effective than regular fixed investment plans, historically showing higher win rates.
  • 📚 The script emphasizes the importance of understanding market indicators like the Shiller P/E Ratio for long-term investment decisions.
  • 🌐 Diversification through a mix of global stock ETFs and total bond ETFs is recommended for general retail investors as a robust asset allocation strategy.

Q & A

  • What is the total scale of high dividend ETFs in 2024 mentioned in the script?

    -The script mentions that the total scale of high dividend ETFs in 2024 has broken through 1 trillion yuan.

  • What is the potential risk associated with buying ETFs using the wrong method according to the script?

    -The script warns that using the wrong method to buy ETFs could be the start of losing money, with the metaphor of 'eating stinky tofu' indicating a bad outcome.

  • What does the term 'eating tofu' refer to in the context of the script?

    -In the script, 'eating tofu' refers to the practice of front-running, where certain parties anticipate the actions of large investors, such as ETFs, and take positions to profit from the expected price movements.

  • What is the recommended ETF by the index investment expert in the script, and what is its unique feature?

    -The script recommends a single high dividend ETF, the Yuanta High Dividend Low Volatility ETF (00713), which is unique for its selection criteria and weighting method based on the minimum variance model.

  • What is the annualized return of the recommended ETF over the past five years according to the script?

    -The script states that the recommended ETF has an annualized return of up to 20% over the past five years.

  • Why does the script suggest that regular fixed investment might be a wrong approach for investing in high dividend ETFs?

    -The script suggests that regular fixed investment could be a wrong approach because it may lead to buying in at higher prices, which could result in mean reversion and potentially lower long-term returns.

  • What is the difference between monthly dividend distribution and quarterly dividend distribution as discussed in the script?

    -The script discusses that monthly dividend distribution might be a marketing ploy to attract investors, whereas quarterly distribution avoids the cash drag and is more aligned with the actual dividend distribution schedule of companies.

  • What does the script suggest regarding the strategy of combining different ETFs for investment?

    -The script suggests that combining different ETFs without considering their factor exposure can lead to conflicting investment strategies and may not yield the desired benefits.

  • What is the script's stance on the 'All in' investment strategy compared to regular fixed investment?

    -The script supports the 'All in' investment strategy over regular fixed investment, stating that it has a higher win rate and better performance over the long term.

  • What advice does the script give for general retail investors regarding ETF investment in the current market?

    -The script advises general retail investors to consider a balanced asset allocation strategy involving global stock ETFs like VT and global bond ETFs like BNDW, rather than focusing solely on high dividend ETFs.

  • How does the script address the concern of investing at a market peak with the 'All in' strategy?

    -The script addresses this concern by showing that even if one invests at a market peak, the long-term performance will still be significant, and the difference in performance between perfect market timing and no timing at all is not as significant as one might think.

Outlines

00:00

📈 High Dividend ETFs: Risks and Strategies

The script discusses the popularity and risks associated with high dividend ETFs in Taiwan, which have reached a market size of over 1 trillion NTD in 2024. It highlights the concept of 'eating tofu', a form of front-running where large players manipulate the market to profit at the expense of retail investors. The speaker, Qingliu Jun, recommends a specific high dividend ETF (00713) for its robust selection criteria and minimum variance weighting model, which aims to minimize risk. The paragraph also warns against the common practice of regular fixed investment, suggesting that it may not be the best approach for high dividend ETFs.

05:01

💡 The Appeal of Dividend Reinvestment and Its Pitfalls

This paragraph delves into the allure of dividend reinvestment, particularly the monthly dividend distribution, which is seen as a way to supplement income. However, the script points out the inefficiencies and drawbacks of monthly dividend distribution, such as the delay in receiving dividends and the impact on compounding effects. It contrasts this with the quarterly distribution of the recommended ETF, 00713, and argues against combining ETFs with different distribution schedules in an investment portfolio, as it may dilute the benefits of the low-volatility factor.

10:02

🎯 The Superiority of Lump-Sum Investing in ETFs

The speaker argues for the benefits of lump-sum investing (All in) over regular fixed investment plans when it comes to ETFs, especially those that track market value. Historical data is presented to show that lump-sum investments have a higher chance of outperforming the market compared to regular fixed investments. The script dispels the myth of the 'smile curve' of fixed investment and emphasizes the importance of market timing, suggesting that even investing at the market peak can yield significant returns over the long term.

15:03

🔮 Navigating Market Volatility with ETFs and Asset Allocation

The final paragraph provides investment advice for the uncertain times of 2024, reiterating the recommendation of a balanced asset allocation between global stock ETFs (VT) and global bond ETFs (BNDW). The speaker reflects on past predictions and how the chosen investment strategy has outperformed bond-focused investment approaches. The advice is consistent with previous recommendations, emphasizing the importance of a long-term, disciplined investment strategy rather than chasing short-term market fluctuations.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡High Dividend ETF

A High Dividend ETF is an exchange-traded fund that focuses on investing in stocks that pay high dividends. In the video, it is mentioned that the total scale of high dividend ETFs in 2024 has surpassed 1 trillion yuan, making it a significant force in the market. The discussion revolves around how to invest in these ETFs properly to avoid losses.

💡00919

00919 is a specific high dividend ETF that people are buying with the expectation of high returns. However, the video warns that attempting to leverage other ETFs like 00940 to boost 00919 can lead to losses, metaphorically referred to as 'eating stinky tofu'.

💡Preemptive Trading

Preemptive trading refers to the practice of buying stocks before they are included in an ETF's portfolio, aiming to profit from the expected price increase. This term is used in the video to describe how large investors might exploit high dividend ETFs by buying shares before they are added to the ETF's holdings, thus disadvantaging retail investors.

💡Yield Enhancement

Yield enhancement involves strategies to increase the return on investment. The video mentions that high dividend ETFs often attract investors looking for stable returns through dividends, but warns that improper strategies can lead to losses instead of gains.

💡Monthly Payout

Monthly payout refers to ETFs that distribute dividends on a monthly basis. The video discusses the appeal of monthly payouts to investors as it creates a sense of regular income, but also highlights the potential drawbacks, such as the impact of dividend reinvestment delays on overall returns.

💡00713

00713 is a specific high dividend ETF recommended in the video for its strong performance. It employs a minimum variance weighting model to reduce risk and achieve higher returns compared to other high dividend ETFs. The video showcases its annualized return of 20%, making it a standout choice.

💡Minimum Variance Model

The minimum variance model is a method used to minimize the risk of an investment portfolio. The video highlights 00713's use of this model to select stocks, which helps in achieving lower volatility and higher returns compared to other high dividend ETFs that use different weighting methods.

💡Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA)

Dollar-cost averaging is an investment strategy where a fixed amount of money is invested at regular intervals, regardless of the asset's price. The video argues against using DCA for high dividend ETFs, suggesting that a lump sum investment (All in) might yield better returns in the long run.

💡Sharpe Ratio

The Sharpe Ratio is a measure of risk-adjusted return. It is mentioned in the video to highlight the superior performance of 00713, which has a Sharpe Ratio of 1.28, indicating high returns relative to its risk. This makes 00713 an attractive option for risk-averse investors.

💡All in

'All in' refers to investing a large sum of money in one go, as opposed to spreading it out over time. The video suggests that, for high dividend ETFs, a single, large investment is more effective than incremental investments, citing historical performance data to support this strategy.

Highlights

In 2024, the total scale of high dividend ETFs has surpassed 10 billion yuan, but using the wrong method to buy ETFs could be the start of losing money.

Some investors are trying to profit from ETFs like 00919 and 00940, but this strategy can lead to losses, metaphorically 'eating stinky tofu'.

The speaker recommends a specific high dividend ETF, the only one that has attracted attention with a 20% annualized return over the past five years.

Regular fixed investment is considered a wrong approach to enter the ETF market, according to the index investment expert, Qingliu Jun.

A detailed explanation of 'front-running', a sophisticated trading strategy used by some large investors to profit from ETFs' constituent stocks.

The risks associated with high dividend ETFs, particularly for new investors and those holding long-term, who may suffer from excessive losses.

The concept of 'strategy reversion to the mean' is discussed, where new ETFs with high dividend strategies may not sustain their performance over time.

An introduction to the ETF 00713, which uses a unique selection and weighting method based on multiple factors and minimal variance.

The comparison between 00713 and other popular high dividend ETFs, showing 00713's superior performance and lower risk.

Critique of the 'monthly distribution' feature of some ETFs, which may not be as beneficial as they seem for long-term compounding.

The importance of considering the timing of investment in ETFs and the potential pitfalls of trying to time the market.

The use of the Shiller P/E ratio as a long-term indicator for stock market performance and its current value for the Taiwan stock market.

A discussion on the effectiveness of 'All in' investment strategy versus regular fixed investment, with historical data supporting the former.

The impact of market timing on long-term investment returns, suggesting that the difference between perfect timing and no timing at all is not significant.

Advice for general investors to consider a balanced asset allocation with global stock ETFs and total bond ETFs, rather than focusing solely on bonds.

A warning against the potential risks of investing in bond ETFs, especially in a changing interest rate environment.

A summary of the investment advice given, emphasizing consistency and the importance of not being swayed by short-term market fluctuations.

Transcripts

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高股息ETF

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2024年總規模突破了1兆元

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但是買ETF用錯方法

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小心是賠錢的開始

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很多人想要去什麼

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買00919 去吃豆腐

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讓00940幫00919抬轎

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那結果

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通通吃到臭豆腐

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如果你真的有那種

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落袋為安 配息的安心感

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真的很需要的話

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我台股唯一推薦一檔高股息ETF

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唯一一檔

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你看它過去5年的績效

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的年化報酬是高達20%

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今天我們就找來指數投資達人清流君

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他說在台股高股息的ETF中

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只有一檔吸引他

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而且他還要告訴你

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定期定額是錯誤的進場方法

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到底發生了什麼事

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一起來聽聽他的說法

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尚樺這批2萬

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這個台股上2萬

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你有買ETF嗎

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有嘛對不對

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但是你覺得說你買ETF

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真的有讓你賺到嗎

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我覺得還不錯

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因為高股息ETF

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最近不是超多人在買

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可是今天來這個是

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逆風而行的

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清流君

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上次來其實很多迴響

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那你今天又帶來一個新的概念

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因為其實大家現在很瘋00940

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而且你看整個市值

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台灣人買ETF

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高股息ETF超過了1兆

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可是你說這樣子很危險是不是

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所以它裡面到底有什麼樣的風險

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一開始我們來看這個

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00940它上個月

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很多人散戶會去說什麼

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它被外資倒貨

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我們以3月29為例

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你看元大大部分買的這些

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它成份股的持股

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買盤都是元大買進的

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可是你看倒給它的

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賣給元大是誰

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這些外資 這些主力

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可是我覺得講倒貨有點太難聽

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講好聽一點就是什麼

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本土投信跟外資

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很有默契的對做

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這樣會比較好去形容

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所以這也衍生出一個蠻重要的問題

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叫做什麼 吃豆腐

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它在國外有一個專有名詞

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叫做搶先交易

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它指的是什麼

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有一些 像這些千億巨獸

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高股息ETF

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它在每次新發行建倉的時候

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它每次成分股

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一年更換兩次的時候

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都有一些主動套利者

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可能是外資 法人

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跟什麼 這些主力

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它會進去提前佈局

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來割這些長期持有

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高股息ETF的韭菜

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今年高股息ETF的總資金規模

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破兆了

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很嚇人

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你知道一破兆

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它就是變相在市場

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是另外一股的力量

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那市場上一定有很多雙的眼睛

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會盯著它們

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它們資金是怎麼流進

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流出到哪些成分股上面的

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假設如果你有辦法知道

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這些千億巨獸

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它將來之後會在哪些股票做交易

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你會怎麼做

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你可以提前買進

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它們要納入成分股的股票

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先拉高股價

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那等這個ETF要納入的時候

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買進的時候

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有買盤你再倒給它們

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所以這也衍生出下一個問題是說

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這些高股息ETF

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它因為本身是股利率做加權

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它的成分股

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代表什麼

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有一些比較小的市值的公司

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它被分配到比較大的比重

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這千億巨獸灌進去的時候

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這些公司它們市值就這麼小

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會造成什麼

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這些成分股的股價

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造成一定的偏移

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在偏移的時候就非常有利可圖

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有超額報酬去割這些韭菜的機會

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搶先交易的主動套利者的

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超額報酬

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是從哪些人的身上賺到

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從散戶

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就是看到想要吃豆腐的人

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從這些

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有兩類人會有超額虧損

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第一類是什麼

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新建倉的

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這些新發行的高股息ETF

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它在募資期間

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就先買的這些大韭菜

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第一個吃到超額虧損

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那第二個是什麼

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他長期持有這些高股息ETF的散戶

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你剛剛那個散彈槍已經掃到很多人

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下面留言刷一排在罵你

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已經哀鴻遍野

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留言區應該刷滿

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可是所以這邊就講到下一個

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散戶就不要去吃豆腐

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對對對 因為這個搶先交易

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它是屬於專業領域在賺的錢

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散戶知道的時候

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這時候已經晚了

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代表什麼

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我們舉個例子好了

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像上個月00940

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很多人想要去

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買00919去吃豆腐

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讓00940幫00919抬轎

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那結果

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通通吃到臭豆腐

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還錯過這段期間大盤的漲幅

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賠了夫人又折兵

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所以最後一個就是

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策略均值回歸

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對對對 這點也是一個

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我們回到策略本身去談

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像你有沒有發現

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今年發行的新ETF都是什麼

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高股息策略

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為什麼

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因為去年它搭上AI概念股

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配了高股息又賺了高價差

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那這樣散戶就會把

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很多資金湧入這個策略

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所以你會發現

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今年發這些高股息ETF

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它的指數回測為什麼這麼漂亮

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就是因為它在發行的之前

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就已經達到策略估值的巔峰

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所以一發行之後

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很容易就均值回歸

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那個成分股的股價直直往下

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所以這會造成一個問題就是什麼

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你在這大量資金流入

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這個高股息策略的時候

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你進去買

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就很容易買貴

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買貴將來就很容易造成

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均值回歸的問題

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很容易將來長期的報酬

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就落後大盤

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我們就舉例

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像0056去年年底的本益比

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是高過0050的

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然後到今年年初至今

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0050的報酬是大勝0056

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均值回歸就在今年體現出來

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可是清流君 但是我們不得不說

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剛剛一開始就已經講到了

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這個高股息ETF

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在台灣的規模已經是破兆

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所以就是真的很多人

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就是愛買高股息ETF

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你把它嫌成這樣

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你覺得就是沒有任何一檔

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你覺得值得關注一下嗎

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如果你真的有那種

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落袋為安 配息的安心感

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真的很需要的話

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我台股唯一推薦一檔高股息ETF

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對 唯一一檔

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元大的高息低波00713

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它一開始的成分股的

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第一關篩選條件上

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它是取台股市值

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前250大上市公司

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那經過流動性篩選過關後

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選出什麼

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它們股利率前60%

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而且股利率不得超過30%的個股

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你可以想250大 前60%

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大概就是150大的高股息的股票

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跟其他高股息ETF比

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這個篩選條件相對寬鬆蠻多的

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它選完這150大成分股之後

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後續有一關非常重要

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它是用五大篩選指標

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來進行綜合打分數

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第一個是什麼 獲利能力

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或者講的是本益比

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我們可以把它看成一個價值因子

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第二個是ROE

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股東權益報酬率

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我們可以看成獲利因子

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那股利率我們可以看成

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半個價值跟半個低波動

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第四個 營運現金流量

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可以是當成價值因子

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最後一個篩選指標

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就是波動度

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那就是低波動因子

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所以它整個綜合打分

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選出綜合分數前50名的股票

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當作成分股

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這套系統是非常有實證根據

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跟學術支撐的

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這個綜合多因子打分數的條件

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它選出這50檔成分股之後

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它的加權方式用的是

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最小變異數模型

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這到底是什麼

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就是讓整個ETF投資組合的風險

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可以達到最小

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你反觀00713這個

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最小變異數加權的模型

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跟其他熱門高股息ETF比

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像0056、00878、00919、00929

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都是用什麼

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股息率來做加權 剛剛講的

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00713是唯一不同的

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它是用最小變異數模型來做加權

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所以非常有實證根據

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可是這個00713

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它到底實際的報酬率有多少

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我們來看一下

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我們就以這個老牌的0056

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來跟它做一個對比

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你看它過去五年的績效

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00713的年化報酬是高達20%

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0056大概是16.3%

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那波動度14%

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比它低

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所以00713不止報酬更高

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而且風險更低 更穩定

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所以它的

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它整個的風險調整後的報酬

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Sharpe Ratio 高達1.28

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非常恐怖

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我們看它從2017年成立以來的

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3年滾動報酬率

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那3年滾動年化報酬

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我們可以怎麼理解

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就是一筆資金存3年的勝率

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你看它從2017年成立至今

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它跟0056 PK作比較

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有43個3年

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總共00713贏了35個3年

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所以勝率高達81%

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這個很厲害

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所以不管從

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實證的方法論細節

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更優

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從過去回測驗證也是更好

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可是其實713 當然它是不錯

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不過像是我自己在買高股息ETF

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我還蠻在乎就是有沒有月月配

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那很多人會買00940也是覺得

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月月配蠻好的

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好像是每個月都可以幫自己加薪

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廣告都這樣講

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收租

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創造現金流

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月月配跟 它是季配

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那你覺得這個差別大概在哪裡

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我覺得月月配是一種

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投信為了過度迎合台灣散戶

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搞出來的噱頭

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是噱頭

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對 噱頭

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第一個就是什麼

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我們台股的除權息旺季是在

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6到9月

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投信用月月配就是什麼

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6到9月所有的配息

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你把它延後到

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10 11 12月再發給你

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假設現在哲青哥你是房東好了

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如果有個房客

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他6到9月本來就該給你的房租

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他拖欠到一整年

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10 11 12月之後再分批給你

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你心裡作何感受

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我想把他趕走了

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可是反觀

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那個高股息喜歡月月配

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他是開心的

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而且台灣的配息機制還有什麼

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它從除息日到領息日

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中間會有一個月的空窗期

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所以你月月配代表什麼

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你整年下來一直有空窗期的存在

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這樣你的複利效果又會再

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倍受影響

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好像沒有人想過這件事情

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所以這空窗期會造成什麼影響

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空窗期就是什麼

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你這個月的資金

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是閒置在投信那邊的

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如果你要進行股息再投入

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就不能了

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而且最後還有一點就是

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有一些小資族

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如果月月配

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他要進行股息再投入

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一個月就配你幾百塊幾千塊

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你要累積到一筆的時候

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再投入的時候會很麻煩

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這樣也會造成一定的

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資金效率的現金拖累

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可是你知道像

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下班經濟學之前有一個專家來

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也是跟我們來分享就是說

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他不會單押0050

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也不會單押0056

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他會用組合的方式

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例如說 0056、00878

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如果再加這個713

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那你覺得 它效果會好嗎

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因為它都是季配

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然後把它湊在一起

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好像也有種月月配的感受

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這位專家論點

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我個人是不敢苟同的

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為什麼

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我們從這個

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這3檔ETF晨星的因子曝險來看

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然後假設我想要00713的

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低波動因子

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我看好它

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將來台股如果發生一些股災

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或市場不好的時候

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低波動可以為我提供一些

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避險的效果

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那如果我再搭配00878、0056

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你看它的低波動因子

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它波動率是很高的

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有沒有看到

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它會抵消什麼

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00713這個低波動因子的效果

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所以你這樣用報明牌的心態

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去亂組一個

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高股息月月配的投資組合

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反而是跟你策略本身會有矛盾

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抵消衝突的效果

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就以為是神隊友

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結果它們不知不覺

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變成了豬隊友就對了

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其實我們剛剛有聽到清流君

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你說可以關注哪一些的高股息ETF

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但是進場策略是更重要的

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我看你的影片裡頭就有提到

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你覺得All in比定期定額更適合

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對 講的沒錯

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就這種市值型的ETF

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個股不行

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然後前提是市場整個長期向上

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一定是All in進場

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這個All in單筆投入

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會比定期定額賺的更多

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勝率更高

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為什麼

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這邊我就以0056跟0050

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它在08年1月到今年2月

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單筆投入100萬All in

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來做一個長期的回測

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你這筆100萬

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如果當初選擇一開始All in進去

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跟你定期定額分批一年

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定期定額的勝率只有3成

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All in勝率高達7成

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而且你分批分的越久

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從1年2年3年

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反而勝率越來越慘

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績效越來越落後

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所以你為了那種安心感

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不後悔的感覺

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選擇定期定額

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你是變相吃到什麼

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大概4%的績效的虧損

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你可以想

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你買一檔ETF的內扣費用

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只有0.4到0.5%

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你都會嫌貴

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何況你用定期定額分批進場

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吃到這個負4%的績效

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可是現在大盤2萬左右

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我才不敢All in

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對啊因為覺得

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像其實我那時候All in的時候

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其實也就是

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它還不到 你萬4的時候

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萬4接近萬5的時候All in的

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當然現在覺得好像不錯

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可是我那時候想說

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如果我一直這樣子

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一直分批

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然後它一直往下

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大家會買到說 微笑曲線

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這個微笑曲線

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是個很錯誤的迷思

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因為在一年的市場裡面

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大部分的日子都是上漲的

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你早一點把錢All in

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多承擔一些風險

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你反而預期報酬是賺的更多的

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所以你覺得現在2萬

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然後還會再往上

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對 2萬照樣All in

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不改變我的看法

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我們就用這個

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台股大盤的席勒本益比

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這到底是什麼東西

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席勒本益比我們可以理解成

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它跟一般的本益比不一樣

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一般本益比是什麼

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股價除以每股盈餘

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那席勒本益比

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它是由諾貝爾經濟學獎得主

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席勒發明出來的

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他把整個分母 每股盈餘

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改成什麼

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過去10年平均

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而且經過通貨膨脹調整

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來做一個替換

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改成這個席勒本益比

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經過實證是

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將來長期股市報酬10年 5年以上的

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很有力的預測指標

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如果當你的席勒本益比

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過高的時候

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股市長期的預期表現

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就不會太好

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我們看現在台股的席勒本益比

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大概就是27.18而已

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那這是高還是低

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我們可以跟過去台股來比

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其實不算高

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跟2022的時候衝到3 40來說

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現在27其實不算高的

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那如果你跟美股做比較

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美股現在是34.67

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現在也不算高

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假設將來真的有

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萬一有一天衝到很高的話

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我去回測

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發現更恐怖的事情

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在席勒本益比大於中位數的時候

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你單筆All in的勝率

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還是什麼

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照樣碾壓定期定額分批進場

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整個勝率高達了

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5成跟6成以上

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所以就是現在如果說

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現在在2萬上下徘徊的情況之下

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如果說現在有一個單筆資金

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你也是建議說

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就不要怕 就把它押進去了

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接下來如果向下修正很久怎麼辦

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我們要堅持 耐心

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承受住

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假設我們在2019年年底好了

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那時候台股12,000點

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2020年年底台股14,000點

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那時候是不是很多老師達人

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主張鼓吹什麼

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趕快出清 現金為王

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那如果我們站在2024年的角度

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往回看這2年

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萬2跟萬4 你會覺得什麼事情

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就是低點

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All in就對

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現在台股接近2萬點

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那如果你有辦法有時光機

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坐到未來5年後的自己

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問自己

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他會跟你說什麼

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現在這個接近2萬點

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他會跟你說什麼

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All in就對

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可是清流君你知道All in

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All in 如果說我剛好很倒霉

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我就All in在最高點

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聽你的話才All in的

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那怎麼辦

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好 我負全責

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我們看一個回測

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這是我回測0050

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它從04年1月成立

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到去年年底

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20年的長期回測績效

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假設我們每年年初

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就收到1萬塊台幣

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如果我們

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假設我們是神好了

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我們每年這1萬塊

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都可以買在當年0050的最低點

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到去年年底

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你這20萬的資金

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會累積到74萬

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假設有另外一個投資人叫小君

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他每年不挑時機點

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就是在年初收到1萬塊

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就All in進場

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到去年年底還有64萬

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跟神比起來好像差異不大

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所以你完美的市場擇時

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跟你不挑 完全不挑時機

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其實影響績效根本不大

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跟預期上差的很多

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第三位投資人

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他每年收到這個1萬塊

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都選擇用定期定額分批進場

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12個月進入

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他到20年下來

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到去年年底

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這20萬是變成62萬

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還是輸給什麼

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小君的每年在年初收到就All in

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就單筆投入必定碾壓定期定額

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假設我真的有個很慘的投資人

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最衰 他每年都可以買在0050

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當年的最高點

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他到去年年底的20萬

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還是有54萬

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所以你就算運氣很差

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你還是會累積到蠻多的報酬

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而且你不可能這麼倒霉

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你可以像小君一樣

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每年年初拿到錢就All in

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就是要月圓

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第一個月圓就投進去這樣子

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對 所以不用去挑時機

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也不要去怕每年就投在高點

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其實績效長期來說不會差異太大

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最怕的是什麼

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像這個

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定存

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第五位投資人

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叫定存族好了

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他永遠只定存

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這20萬到去年年底

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只有變成什麼

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22萬而已

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雖然剛剛清流君

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你還是看好現在就算站上2萬點

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未來還是後勢可期

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但是不得不說2024年

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還是有很多不確定性的因素

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比如說降息也許會大延遲

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所以你會給投資朋友哪一些建議

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11個月前有來錄過一次影

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就來錄過2次

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我給的建議都是什麼

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一模一樣的

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就給一般散戶的建議

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就是VT搭配BNDW

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這種全世界股票的ETF

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搭配這種全世界總體債的ETF

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做一個搭配

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是最適合一般散戶的資產配置

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那時候還被多問一個問題就是

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那時候存債的浪潮非常盛行

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從去年就是超多老師

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來我們這邊都說買

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美債20年期ETF

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對 我也有買

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我那時候主張就是說

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不要去存債

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我們做好這種股債搭配

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固定資產配置 再平衡就好

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那時候被罵翻

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我留言區下面一片罵聲

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說你看不起這種存債族

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結果反觀到現在

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經過事實 你看

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11個月前這個

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VT加BNDW的投資組合

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我設定是什麼 6:4

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到現在賺了13%

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那如果你存債

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存20年期的美國公債

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報酬是什麼 負8%

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這樣一正一負 差距高達20%

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所以現在的話就是

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如果說到今天

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那你現在建議

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還是以這樣子的配置為準

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對 我不改變我看法

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我不當朝三暮四的猴子

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如果將來有一天好了

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10年後我再來下班經濟學

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我還是會給你同樣的建議

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那希望我們那個時候節目還在

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真的真的

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謝謝 謝謝清流君

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