STOP πŸ›‘ Doing Push/Pull/Leg (If You Have SMALL Arms)

Cris Edmonds TV
6 Dec 202207:41

Summary

TLDRThe video script advocates against the popular 'push-pull-legs' workout routine for those with average or small arms, arguing it can hinder arm growth. The speaker, a fitness expert, suggests that the routine's structure, which includes arm exercises after chest and shoulder workouts, leaves the arms too fatigued for effective training. Instead, he recommends dedicating a separate day for arm workouts to ensure they receive full attention and energy when fresh. The speaker also proposes a modified workout split that incorporates both 'push-pull-legs' and dedicated arm days for those who still prefer the former's structure.

Takeaways

  • πŸ’ͺ The speaker advises against the push-pull-legs workout routine for those with normal or small arms, as it may hinder arm growth.
  • πŸ‹οΈβ€β™‚οΈ Push-pull-legs is popular in bodybuilding and lifting communities, but the speaker has seen it lead to underdeveloped arms.
  • πŸ”„ The routine involves doing a lot of pressing exercises that also work the arms, which might leave them too fatigued for effective arm training later.
  • 🚫 The speaker emphasizes that training arms when already exhausted from chest and shoulder exercises is not ideal for growth.
  • πŸ‹οΈβ€β™€οΈ It's suggested that training arms fresh, with full energy and focus, yields better results than training them fatigued.
  • πŸ“… Having a dedicated arm day allows for a more focused and effective workout, which can be beneficial for those looking to grow their arms.
  • πŸ”„ The speaker proposes an alternative training split that includes a dedicated arm day for better arm development.
  • 🍽️ Arm training on a separate day can be part of an active recovery, which is less taxing on the central nervous system compared to leg or back training.
  • πŸ’‘ For those who still want the push-pull-legs structure, the speaker suggests incorporating an additional arm day into the routine.
  • πŸ“ˆ The video script challenges the one-size-fits-all approach to workout routines, emphasizing the need for individualized training based on personal goals and physique.

Q & A

  • What is the main argument against doing push-pull-legs workouts for individuals with small arms?

    -The main argument is that if your arms are not massive compared to the rest of your physique, doing push-pull-legs workouts can lead to underdeveloped arms because the arms are not given enough dedicated energy and focus due to being trained after more demanding exercises like chest and shoulder presses.

  • Why does the speaker believe that training arms after chest and shoulders in a push-pull-legs routine is not effective?

    -The speaker believes that training arms after chest and shoulders is not effective because the arms are already fatigued from the pressing exercises, leading to a lack of energy and mental focus, which is crucial for effective arm training.

  • What is the recommended sweet spot for the number of sets per arm muscle group per week according to the speaker?

    -The speaker recommends 9 to 12 sets per arm muscle group per week as the sweet spot for optimal arm growth.

  • How does the speaker feel about the mind-muscle connection when training arms after a push day?

    -The speaker feels that the mind-muscle connection is significantly reduced when training arms after a push day, as the triceps feel 'dead' and not as connected or in tune compared to when they are trained fresh.

  • What alternative workout routine does the speaker suggest for those struggling to grow their arms?

    -The speaker suggests having a dedicated arm day, treating it as an active recovery day, which allows for a focused and energetic arm workout without the fatigue from previous exercises.

  • Why does the speaker consider an arm day as an active recovery day?

    -The speaker considers an arm day as an active recovery day because it does not neurologically beat him down or exhaust his central nervous system like other muscle groups do, allowing him to still function and feel refreshed after the workout.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the push-pull-legs routine for those who have well-developed arms?

    -The speaker believes that the push-pull-legs routine can be effective for those who already have well-developed arms, but it may not be the best choice for those who are struggling to grow their arms.

  • What is the speaker's advice for individuals who still want to incorporate push-pull-legs into their routine while also focusing on arm growth?

    -The speaker advises those who enjoy push-pull-legs to incorporate a separate arm day into their routine, allowing them to get the benefits of both routines by having a push-pull-legs week followed by an arm day.

  • How does the speaker feel about the scientific and logical arguments for training arms after chest and shoulders?

    -The speaker acknowledges the scientific and logical arguments but dismisses them based on his personal experience and the 'bro in the trenches' perspective, stating that it doesn't feel the same and doesn't lead to the desired results.

  • What is the speaker's stance on workout routines being one-size-fits-all?

    -The speaker's stance is that workout routines should not be one-size-fits-all, as every individual responds differently to exercise, nutrition, and supplements, and therefore, workout plans should be tailored to the individual's needs.

Outlines

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πŸ’ͺ The Case Against Push-Pull Legs for Small Arms

The speaker passionately argues against the popular push-pull legs workout routine for individuals with average or small arms. They contend that this routine, despite being favored in bodybuilding and lifting circles, often results in underdeveloped arms relative to the rest of the physique. The speaker's experience suggests that after exhausting workouts targeting the chest and shoulders, the arms, particularly the triceps, feel depleted and lack the energy and connection needed for effective training. They propose that training arms on a separate day, when fresh and focused, is more beneficial for growth. The speaker emphasizes the importance of mental and physical readiness, suggesting that the 'bro science' from personal experience outweighs theoretical benefits.

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πŸ‹οΈβ€β™‚οΈ Alternative Training Splits for Arm Growth

Frustrated by the advice given to young, eager trainees, the speaker advocates for a change in workout routines for those struggling with arm development. They suggest abandoning the push-pull legs split if it's not yielding results and instead recommend dedicating a separate day for arm training. This approach is described as an 'active recovery' day, which is less taxing on the body and allows for a more focused and effective arm workout. The speaker also proposes a hybrid approach that combines elements of push-pull legs with dedicated arm days, allowing for both variety and targeted growth. They emphasize the importance of individualized training programs that account for personal goals and responses to exercise, and they encourage experimentation with different splits to find what works best for growing arms.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Push-Pull Legs

Push-Pull Legs is a workout routine where push exercises (focusing on chest, shoulders, and triceps) and pull exercises (focusing on back and biceps) are alternated with leg workouts. In the video, the speaker argues against this routine for individuals with smaller arms, suggesting it may not provide adequate focus and energy for arm development, as it spreads arm training across multiple days rather than concentrating it on a single 'Arm Day'.

πŸ’‘Arm Day

An 'Arm Day' refers to a dedicated day in a workout routine where exercises specifically targeting the arm muscles are performed. The speaker in the video recommends having a separate 'Arm Day' for those who have smaller arms and wish to develop them, as it allows for focused energy and attention on arm muscles without the fatigue from other muscle groups.

πŸ’‘Underdeveloped Arms

Underdeveloped arms refer to arms that are smaller or less developed compared to the rest of the body. The video discusses the issue of individuals with underdeveloped arms following the popular Push-Pull Legs routine, which may not be optimal for their specific needs, as it may lead to arms 'getting worse' instead of growing.

πŸ’‘Workout Split

A workout split is the organization of different muscle groups to be trained on specific days of the week. The video critiques the Push-Pull Legs split for those with underdeveloped arms and suggests an alternative approach that prioritizes arm development by giving them their own dedicated day.

πŸ’‘Mind-Muscle Connection

Mind-muscle connection refers to the mental focus and awareness one has on the muscle being trained during an exercise. The speaker mentions that when training arms after a chest workout, the mind-muscle connection is not as strong, leading to a less effective workout. This concept is used to argue for the importance of training arms when fresh and focused.

πŸ’‘Active Recovery

Active recovery involves light exercise to aid in recovery from more intense workouts. The video suggests that having a separate 'Arm Day' can serve as an active recovery day, allowing for lighter, more focused training that doesn't overly tax the body, especially if legs or back were trained recently.

πŸ’‘Carbohydrates

Carbohydrates are a key energy source for workouts. The speaker mentions that after training hard on chest, shoulders, and legs, the body's carbohydrate stores are depleted, which may affect the energy available for subsequent arm training. This is used as an argument for why arm training might be less effective when done after other muscle groups.

πŸ’‘Pre-Workout

A pre-workout is a supplement taken before exercising to enhance energy and performance. The video discusses how even with pre-workout consumption, the energy levels and effectiveness for arm training might still be compromised if arms are trained after other muscle groups due to the overall fatigue and depletion of energy resources.

πŸ’‘Set and Rep Range

A set is a group of consecutive repetitions of an exercise, and rep range refers to the number of repetitions performed. The speaker mentions that while 9 to 12 sets per side for arms might be ideal when fresh, the effectiveness of these sets can be diminished if performed after other muscle groups, due to fatigue.

πŸ’‘Blood Flow

Blood flow is the circulation of blood in the body, which is crucial for delivering oxygen and nutrients to muscles during exercise. The video suggests that when training arms after other muscle groups, blood flow might be reduced, leading to a 'dead' feeling in the arms and less effective workouts.

πŸ’‘Nutrition

Nutrition refers to the intake of nutrients required for health and exercise performance. While not explicitly detailed in the video, the mention of pre-lift meals and the importance of diet in general implies that nutrition plays a role in the speaker's overall argument for the effectiveness of different workout routines and the development of underdeveloped arms.

Highlights

The push-pull-legs workout routine may not be optimal for those with normal or small arms.

The speaker challenges the popular belief that push-pull-legs is the best workout split for everyone.

Individuals with underdeveloped arms might see a decline in arm development when following push-pull-legs.

The speaker suggests that the arms may not receive adequate energy and focus when trained after chest and shoulders in a push-pull-legs routine.

Eight to twelve sets per week is recommended for optimal arm development, but the quality of these sets is crucial.

Training arms when fresh is more effective than when they are fatigued from previous exercises.

The speaker emphasizes the importance of mind-muscle connection, which is often lacking when training arms after an exhausting chest workout.

For those struggling to grow their arms, dedicating a separate day for arm training is advised.

Having a dedicated arm day can serve as active recovery and not overtax the central nervous system.

The speaker shares personal experience, suggesting that arm training feels more effective when done fresh rather than as an afterthought.

The video challenges viewers to reconsider their workout splits if they are not seeing desired results in arm development.

A potential alternative workout split is proposed: pull on Monday, push on Tuesday, legs on Thursday, and arms on Friday.

The speaker encourages viewers to experiment with different workout splits to find what works best for their individual needs.

The importance of individual response to exercise is highlighted, suggesting that one size does not fit all.

The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to prioritize their arm training if they are not satisfied with their current progress.

Transcripts

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if you have normal or small arms stop

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doing push-pull legs

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okay I'm gonna piss a lot of people off

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of this video and honestly I don't give

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a [Β __Β ] because it's true if your arms

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aren't massive compared to the rest of

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your physique you cannot you should not

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do push-pull legs and I know right now

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it's like

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extremely popular in the bodybuilding

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community in the lifting community and

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even in the Science World Push Pull legs

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is optimal I can run through my twice my

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body in one week and still have an off

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day

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I it just doesn't work I've seen it way

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too many times guys have come to me with

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like normal or underdeveloped arms in

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comparison to the rest of their physique

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they do push-pull legs and guess what

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happens their arms literally get worse I

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I just I don't understand it and they

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keep banging their head against the wall

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I'd like my arms to get bigger and like

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stay doing push-pull legs it just

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doesn't make sense to me and let me tell

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you why

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if I'm gonna do push let's say push

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right if I'm going to do a shitload of

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dumbbell pressing

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incline barbell pressing flies

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machine pressing then I'm going to get

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in the shoulders I'm going to let's say

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I'm going to do a bunch of rear laterals

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a bunch of side laterals

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and then you're telling me I have

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adequate energy everyone's six exercises

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to give my arms

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I just don't understand and then you're

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counting that as your arm day so let's

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say for example we still do four sets of

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push downs and four sets of Skull

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Crushers that's eight total sets on a

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push day for triceps and they and they

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just aren't responding and you would say

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to me Chris I'm doing eight sets for

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tries in a week does that work

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well if I just hit or I'm staying alone

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I would say yeah you're exactly right

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that would be more than enough

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eight sets eight to twelve sets is a

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good target range I really technically

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like nine to twelve but you know it is

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what it is nine to twelve in my mind is

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kind of The Sweet Spot for arms

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per side so nine for twelve for tries

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nine to twelve for buys over the course

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of a week right

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but what you have to remember is that's

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drastically different going at triceps

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after training hard chest hard shoulders

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and then tries versus come to the gym

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when you're fresh when you hadn't burned

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up any of those carbohydrates

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from training and you have it all to go

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to your arms that's a way different

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scenario

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than when I'm hitting them fresh or when

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I'm hitting them when I'm exhausted or

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tired or getting tired right now I know

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some people say well Chris I've already

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drank

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a bunch of intro I still have some

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energy I've had a pre-workout I had all

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my food from the previous day

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I do not care you can give me all the

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science in the world you can give me all

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the logic in the world I'm just telling

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you from bro in the trenches it doesn't

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feel the same when I hit tries fresh

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I can give them tons of energy and

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dialed into it mentally when I come to

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the gym I'm already thinking about that

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all morning long I train arms on

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Saturday all morning long when I'm doing

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my client work when I'm eating my two

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pre-lift meals

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I'm thinking arms arms arms I'm gonna

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blow those [Β __Β ] up because I know

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they need to grow on me

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as opposed if I'm going into a push day

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I'm like man I got to get through heavy

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incline dumbbell press heavy incline

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barbell press I gotta do a flag I had to

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load that machine up I gotta burn the

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piss out of my shoulders one rear and

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side laterals

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and then tries for me has always been an

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afterthought and if I'm being brutally

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honest by telling you the tries the

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muscle kind of feels dead like it's not

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nearly as connected and in tune I don't

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have the Mind muscle connection that I

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have when I start with Tris fresh or do

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them after biceps

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and I have zero science to prove that

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in logically you're like oh man well

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your tries for example have already got

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a lot of blood in them from all the

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pressing you did for chest right they

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should feel good to tackle in some push

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downs and Skull Crushers or dips

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but these don't they feel dead they feel

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tired mentally I'm already kind of like

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[Β __Β ] I get 58 sets and I'm gonna go home

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and eat I'm hungry let's just play devil

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advocate there let's say you do push

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pull legs and your arms grow great stick

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with it ignore this video hit stop go to

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the next one this isn't for you

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for people like me who have bad arms

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who need to grow their arms if you need

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to grow arms making them a priority give

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them their own day now let me talk to

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you about the benefits of it

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if you have your own arm day I kind of

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do it as an active recovery it's not

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going to neurologically beat you down

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it's not going to attach your central

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nervous system it's not going to leave

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you feeling gassed like

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I've pounded arms in the past With

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Buddies

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I mean we'll tag the video that I did

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with Dave that was a hard arm workout

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but it pales in comparison to what it

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feels like when him and I train legs or

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train back or train chest and shoulders

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together

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it's not the same I can still go home

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and fully function if Andrew want me to

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go let's say go to a Christmas tree farm

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and look around and Shop I'd be down

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after legs if she asked me to do that

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sorry my ass is sitting on the couch

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good luck and even she like listen at

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this point in our life she knows when

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back in leg day you don't ask me to do

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that [Β __Β ] I'm gonna sit my ass on the

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couch I'm gonna work I'm gonna watch TV

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I'm gonna sleep and eat in the story so

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it's really frustrating me because I

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have all these young guys that are so

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hungry for knowledge and they study

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study study and they're like oh

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so-and-so tells me to do push-pull legs

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it's the best split and I'm always like

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it might be the best split for them it

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might be the best split for someone with

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great arms

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but not someone who needs to grow their

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arms

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and I really love the fact that in my

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opinion when I had an arm day I'd view

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it as an active recover like I said

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earlier

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it's not going to beat me into the

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ground I can do arms hit some calves I'm

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in and out of the gym and 60 to on it

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well more if I'm gonna be a full window

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50 to 70 minutes

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it's easy it's quick it's a huge pump it

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feels great I leave the gym feeling

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refreshed it got some blood moving if

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I'm sore and beat the [Β __Β ] from legs and

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back row in a week it actually gets

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blood moving makes me feel better

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so I challenge you guys out there right

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now if you have weak struggling arms

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give up the push-pull leg split it's

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garbage or or here is the ultimate right

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let's say for example I do push pull

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legs

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and then have an arm day

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wow mind blown

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I can do that why the [Β __Β ] not there is

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no reason you couldn't do pull on Monday

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push on Tuesday off on Wednesday legs on

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Thursday arms on Friday

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wow I just hit arms twice that week

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so then what I can do when I hit arms

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early in the week on the push and pull

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portions

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I can do like six sets of cable work for

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arms pump the piss out of them 15 to 20

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rep range and then come back later and

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hit a full arm day later in the week so

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I get a little bit of blood in there so

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if you really like and enjoy mentally

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push-pull legs that's a great way to

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implement we can get Best of Both Worlds

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right Push Pull legs early in the week

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have your own off day then a rest day or

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two and then come right back to Arms

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has gave you the secrets right I know

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sometimes it's really hard to like wrap

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your mind around thinking about things

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outside of the box right so that split I

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just gave you pull push off legs arms

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off off repeat

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but Chris why didn't you just repeat

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Push Pull legs you could but if it's not

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working we have to chain something if

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it's not Optimum we have to change

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something and when I say authoring

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optimal for you

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for me for every client I have every

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person is a unique individual they

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respond to exercise nutrition

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supplements different so we have to

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treat it that way

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if you like this video guys like share

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and subscribe until next time you better

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have bigger [Β __Β ] arms

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