Magic Johnson was HIGHLY AGITATED by Ant-Man's MJ comments 👀 - Shannon Sharpe | First Take
Summary
TLDRIn a spirited discussion, NBA legends and analysts debate the skill level of players across different eras. Anthony Edwards' comment that Michael Jordan was the only skilled player during his era is met with criticism from Magic Johnson, who asserts that only champions should comment on player skill. The conversation touches on the importance of respecting pioneers in basketball and acknowledges the evolution of the game, including improved training, nutrition, and coaching. Despite acknowledging advancements, some argue that today's players may not surpass the skill sets of past greats, while others contend that modern players have reached new heights in versatility and shooting ability.
Takeaways
- 🏀 Anthony Edwards sparked controversy by suggesting that Michael Jordan was the only skilled player during his era.
- 🗣️ Magic Johnson responded by stating he doesn't respond to those who haven't won championships at high school or college levels.
- 🏆 The discussion highlights the importance of championship wins in evaluating a player's skill and legacy.
- 👑 There's a debate on whether the current generation of NBA players is more skilled due to better training, nutrition, and learning from past players.
- 🔍 The conversation emphasizes the influence of pioneers like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Dr. J on the skills and styles of modern players.
- 🤔 It questions whether Edwards' opinion is valid since he didn't witness the older players in action, suggesting that one's perspective is shaped by personal experience.
- 📈 The skill level in basketball is believed by some to have evolved, with contemporary players being more versatile and technically proficient.
- 🏋️♂️ The advancements in training, nutrition, and coaching are credited for the improvement in players' skills over the years.
- 🎯 The script points out the exceptional shooting abilities of today's players, even those not starting, showcasing the depth of talent in the league.
- 🚫 The discussion also touches on rule changes in basketball that have affected how the game is played and how skills are displayed.
Q & A
What was Anthony Edwards' statement about the Michael Jordan era?
-Anthony Edwards stated that during the Michael Jordan era, it was tougher back then than it is now, but he doesn't think anybody had skill back then except for Michael Jordan.
How did Magic Johnson respond to Edwards' statement?
-Magic Johnson responded by saying he doesn't respond to anyone who hasn't won a championship, neither at the high school level nor the college level.
What does the commentator think about Magic Johnson's response?
-The commentator finds Magic Johnson's response fair, acknowledging his status as a five-time champion and one of the greatest point guards in basketball history.
Why does the commentator believe Edwards' statement was disrespectful?
-The commentator believes Edwards' statement was disrespectful because it disregarded the skills of other legendary players like Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Isaiah Thomas.
What does the commentator emphasize about the influence of pioneers in basketball?
-The commentator emphasizes that pioneers in basketball, like Dr. J and Connie Hawkins, paved the way for future players and influenced their skills and styles.
How does the commentator view the skill level of today's basketball players compared to the past?
-The commentator argues that today's players are more skilled due to better training, nutrition, and the ability to study and learn from past players.
What does the commentator say about the importance of winning championships in evaluating a player's skill?
-The commentator suggests that while championships are important, they should not be the sole measure of a player's skill, as there are many skilled players who have not won titles.
What does the commentator think about the evolution of basketball skills over time?
-The commentator believes that basketball skills have evolved and improved over time, with players today being able to do multiple things on the court more effectively.
How does the commentator respond to the idea that past players were more skilled than current players?
-The commentator counters this idea by listing several skilled players from the past, such as Charles Barkley, and argues that there were many skilled players in every era of basketball.
What does the commentator suggest about the role of visibility and recognition in discussions about basketball players' skills?
-The commentator implies that visibility and recognition play a role in how players are perceived and that those who are not as well-known might be underappreciated for their skills.
Outlines
🏀 Debate on Skill Level in Basketball History
The paragraph discusses a debate sparked by comments from Anthony Edwards, who suggested that Michael Jordan was the only skilled player during his era. This statement was met with criticism from basketball legend Magic Johnson, who argued that only those who have won championships at any level should comment on the skill levels of players. The conversation touches on the importance of respecting the pioneers of the game and acknowledges the advancements in training, nutrition, and overall skill level of modern players. The discussion also emphasizes the role of evolution in the game, with the current generation benefiting from the lessons and examples set by past greats.
🗣️ Skill and Legacy in Basketball Evolution
This paragraph continues the discussion on the evolution of basketball skills, with a focus on the contributions of past players to the current generation. It challenges the notion that modern players are more skilled by pointing out the achievements and unique skills of legendary players like Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and others. The conversation also addresses the role of pioneers in shaping the game and the importance of acknowledging their influence. There's a recognition of the improved training, nutrition, and coaching that contribute to the skill development of today's players, but also a call to remember the legacy of those who came before.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Skill
💡Championship
💡Disrespect
💡Pioneers
💡Evolution
💡Legacy
💡Training
💡Nutrition
💡Innovation
💡Hand Check
💡Recognition
Highlights
Edwards comments on the Michael Jordan era, suggesting it was tougher back then and that Jordan was the only one with skill.
Magic Johnson's response to Edwards, stating he doesn't respond to those who haven't won championships at any level.
Stephen A. Smith's defense of Anthony Edwards as a favorite player and the importance of seeing him in the national spotlight.
Criticism of Edwards' statement as disrespectful to the skills of past basketball legends like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson.
Discussion on the influence of pioneers in basketball and how current players have built upon their legacy.
Stephen A. Smith's argument that today's players have better training, nutrition, and can learn from past players' successes.
The acknowledgment that while individual players like Michael Jordan were highly skilled, others like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson were equally skilled.
The importance of recognizing the skill level of past players and not dismissing their contributions to the game.
The evolution of basketball skills over time, with today's players having access to better training and nutrition.
The argument that today's players are more skilled due to improved coaching, nutrition, and training methods.
The comparison of shooting skills between past and present players, noting the impressive shooting abilities of today's players.
The impact of rule changes in basketball on the way players can shoot and handle the ball.
The importance of not dismissing the skills of past players based on the fact that current players have not seen them play.
The final point made about the skill level of players and the need to respect the legacy of pioneers in the sport.
Transcripts
and Edwards still making headlines
Edwards told wsj when it comes to the
Michael Jordan era they say it was
tougher back then than it is now but I
don't think anybody had skill back then
Michael Jordan was the only one that
really had skill this sparter responds
from Lakers Legend Magic Johnson who
said that he doesn't respond to anybody
that hasn't won a championship and
hasn't won a championship at the high
school level or the college level are
Magic's comments fair or foul Steph
they're Fair he's a five-time champion
universally recognized as the greatest
point guard in the history of
basketall um I love Anthony Edwards he's
one of my top two favorite players in
the game and I'm praying he wins a
championship because seeing this brother
on national TV and the national
Spotlight is something that is beautiful
for basketball fans everywhere but when
you come out with a statement that you
know what the really the only skilled
player was Michael Jordan that's
flagrantly disrespectful to the old God
uh Larry Bird wasn't skilled to Magic
Isa Isaiah Thomas was one of the
greatest skilled guards in the history
of basketball Magic Johnson was 69ine a
69 point guard we had never seen
anything like him and one of the things
that I pay attention to Shannon is that
I'm very apt in bringing up the fact
that if it were not for the pioneers
others wouldn't be what they are there's
no way that you didn't mirror your game
after somebody when you were in root to
a Hall of Fame football career before
there was Dr J there was Connie Hawkins
for crying out loud before there was
Michael Jordan there was Dr J okay
before you know before there was Vince
Carter there was MJ okay before you know
I mean Kobe Bryant and stuff like that
came later so I look at it from that
standpoint and I'm of the mindset wait a
minute here you know you know I don't
like that you can't say something like
that but the other thing that I would
say is
this understand how
profound Magic Johnson's statement was
when when I was interviewing him at this
event last
week what he said also applies to
Charles
Barkley it applies to the Patrick eings
of the world it applies to Shan Kemp of
the world or
Paul even today the Paul georgees of the
world the Russell Westbrooks of the
world uh and the James hardens of the
world and various others so magic didn't
sit up there and just say today's
generation he said anybody who hasn't
who's played but hasn't won a title
don't get to get my attention as to who
I was or who anybody was that actually
won championships you know what I'm
saying in terms of measuring our skill
level because because he's highlighting
there far more that goes into it than
what the human eye just sees on the
basketball
court Stephen A I've known Magic Johnson
30 years not as well as you know him
right I was
shocked with the veracity in which you
said what he said because normally magic
is a lot more diplomatic he's a lot more
PC now behind the scenes it's a whole
different argument but he's a lot more
diplomatic he's a lot more diplomatic
for him to take that tone in the
harshness in which he said it lets me
know he was highly agitated by what a
said now Stephen A it's hard for me to
sit here and as we was talking about
with de uh uh with do just a minute ago
Evolution happens these guys they have
better training they have better
nutrition and they have the Advent
Advent of having saw what those guys did
and studied those guys it's hard for me
to believe that the inventions today are
not better than some of the adventures
we had TW 30 years ago that just happens
do I believe the players as a hold there
are more skilled players that can do
multiple things aim elijahwan was highly
skilled you still I don't not so sure
that we've seen a big man that can
dominate both ends of the Court like he
could the man did a quadruple double
they took one quadruple double away said
it was it was faulty he went back and
got another one two days later so that
just shows you the skill level yes bird
was skilled magic was highly skilled yes
but as a whole Stephen A it would be
hard press for you to say having covered
the game as long as you have to say that
there are not more skilled players guys
that can shoot dribble and do multiple
things today than they were 20 30 years
ago if is not true because the guys have
gotten better the guys have practiced
more the guys have uh coach better their
nutrition is better guys work out harder
the training yes but for for Antman to
say that Mike was the only skilled
player and when you had Isaiah you had
birdie you had Elijah one no bro Adrian
Dantley was skilled yeah okay let let's
be very very clear about Charles Barkley
is one of the greatest forwards in the
history of basketball we can have we can
we can knock him for not
but but that's right I mean sea Kemp
that wasn't skill you understand I'm
saying I mean I mean Gary pton that
wasn't skilled I mean think about this I
mean listen I go back to Mark Price For
Crying Out Loud out of Georgia Tech that
was playing in Cleveland all of those
years that brother wasn't skilled Allan
Houston wasn't skilled Larry Johnson
wasn't skilled Ying wasn't skilled I
mean wait a minute now I mean there was
a whole bunch of Ballers there was a
whole bunch of cats that were playing
that were very skilled this skill level
might have elevated now but would you
have known what to be Ant-Man if it were
not for the Pioneers that had paved the
way that giving you a visual of what you
could be that's where it emanates from
and that's what we got to remember I'll
just remind everyone he started with the
quote saying that I never saw any of
these guys play so I mean it's kind of
much to do about nothing when you think
of well just because just because you
don't see well see that's why you
shouldn't say that because you see
that's what I'm saying he kind of
contradicted himself work exactly before
before he continued with statement if
you saw the entirety of the quote right
there you go right and the thing is uh
Stephen A mly is that when you look at
it maybe some of the rules but the way
the guys can shoot the basketball
Stephen you you have been at games early
and you watch these guys the 13th guy on
the bench can just flat out shoot the
ball they guys those guys go 10 15 shots
and don't miss a shot and they shooting
from 20 22 25 ft away it's crazy the way
they can shoot the basketball yes the
rule Chang it yes Stephen they don't let
you the uh uh the hand check below the
line the for they used to put your let
you put your forearm in some of the
rules but the guys the way Luca and the
way joic and the way these guys can the
skill level is just off the chart but
and you can't say because you didn't see
it that doesn't mean they weren't
skilled yeah absolutely we'll leave it
there falling in the forest because you
didn't hear it it didn't make a sound
up
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